Sea Year Top Ten List

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  1. jamzmom

    jamzmom Founding Member

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    “TOP 10“ POINTS TO REMEMBER
    WHEN MIDSHIPMEN GO TO SEA
    Below are our current “Top Ten” we are trying
    to pass on to our next group of Cadets going to
    sea.
    1. KP arranges flights from KP to assignment,
    assignment to assignment, assignment back to KP
    USMMA CAN NOT arrange flights to homes.
    2. There is NO guarantee of leave during sea
    period.
    3. 1st time sailor goal is 110-120 commercial sea
    days.
    4. 2nd time sailor MUST obtain the balance of days
    to bring commercial sea time to 300 days.
    5. Chain of command for cadets is through the
    ATR:
    ALL MATTERS REGARDING THE SCHOOL OR
    SEA ASSIGNMENT MUST GO VIA THE ATR
    6. Work day is 8 hours/day, 7 days/week, 2 to 3
    hours spent on sea project; cadet turns to for all
    extra-ordinary routines (docking, undocking,
    anchoring, etc.).
    7. Sea Year Guide has answers to most questions:
    READ THE SEA YEAR GUIDE! prior to contacting
    ATR with question.
    8. CADETS ARE TREATED AS ADULTS while
    under our authority and are expected to act as
    adults on board ships.
    9. Should have a credit card during Sea Year for
    convenience/emergencies.
    10. From Dental Department: must have had the
    approved dental appointments and be cleared to
    go to sea.
    When on their Sea Year, the cadet’s primary point
    of contact is the ATR. They are each assigned an
    ATR that follows them throughout both sea years.
    Each cadet is given a card with the work and office
    phones of all ATRs and me. Their ATR should be
    contacted first in all cases, routine and
    emergency. E-mail is the primary method for
    routine communication.
    If their assigned ATR is not available at the time of
    their call, they should try again later that day. Also,
    tell them to be mindful of the day and time,
    especially if calling from overseas. The ATRs
    understand that sometimes there is only a small
    window of opportunity to make a call and they
    routinely field questions at night and on the
    weekends.
    In the case of emergencies and we mean true
    emergencies, when the assigned ATR is not
    available the cadet should call one of the other
    ATRs. Since the cadets’ definition of an emergency
    is sometimes different than the academy’s, for
    example: wanting to know your flight arrangements
    over a week before arrival in port is not an
    emergency— However, arriving in port and not
    having received your flights is an emergency. By
    now the phone system may have already been
    upgraded so it can automatically help find an
    available ATR in an emergency.
    The cadets are given a code word to include in a
    conversation or e-mail if they have a problem that
    they cannot discuss without fear of someone
    overhearing. This is not something they should
    use lightly because it sets gears in motion that
    move quickly to remove the cadet from that ship.
    Lastly, we don’t mean that they should complain if
    they’re being told something they don’t like and
    they want to see if “Daddy” will say okay when
    “Mommy” said no—as parents, I’m sure you are all
    aware of this “oldest trick in the book.” The ATRs
    are dealing with hundreds of cadets and
    sometimes there are misunderstandings of intents
    or desires. Tell your students that ATRs
    appreciate it most when a cadet comes out and
    asks for something directly instead of beating
    around the bush and expecting them to figure it out.
     
  2. gator guy

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    JM, thanks for all of your help regarding the USMMA. Is the 1st seatime restricted to one type of vessel, or, can a midshipman choose a container ship and tanker experience? Also, can he or she choose both a military and a civilian vessel during the 1st seatime?
     
  3. jamzmom

    jamzmom Founding Member

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    I had to ask for help with your question Gator. So here is one response from a Mid who has completed the two parts of Sea Year:

     
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    I appreciate you tracking down an answer for me. Thanks also to the mid who took time away from a busy schedule to respond.
     
  5. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    I HIGHLY recommend staying on as few vessels as possible, but making sure to get the necessary experience. For deckies this should definately include some time on an oil tanker. For engineers there are some requirements including time on steam and diesel engine ships.

    The reason I say to stay on as few ships as possible is due to the fact that for each ship you are on you have to do certain drawings in your sea year. This means basically doubling your work or even tripling your work. For the first sea year stick to one ship, for the second do half on one and half on another. Unless you like homework I guess...
     
  6. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    We had a great KP midshipman on my cutter my first year, did a good job, good guy...hopefully we converted him to the USCG. He had some good stories from other ships.
     
  7. jamzmom

    jamzmom Founding Member

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    Son's first ship was a (steam) container ship with Horizon Lines. They learn alot that first time out. Second part of Sea Year he went out on an MSC oiler/tanker, bopped off to the USNS Comfort to look at 600 nurses, then bopped back to the same oiler/tanker he began on so that he could finish out his Tankerman PIC (person in charge) certification. The paper trail was as thick as the War & Peace novel as KP2001 suggests. :eek:
     
  8. Boondock

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    so how hard is it to go on an aircraft carrier?
     
  9. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    Just have to let your wishes be known and be flexible during your sea year. Shouldn't be a problem at all. You will be limited to 30 days though (as with any warship)
     
  10. Boondock

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    k thanks. 30 days seems short out of 300 though :)
     
  11. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    30 days is a short time; however, it has to do with CG rules for licensing I believe.
     

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