Second year Nominations

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  1. Ethands15

    Ethands15 Member

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    Hello, well as most of you know, I got that dreaded thin envelope. Turns out I was never scholastically Q'ued. I was however medically Q'ued and I was granted 3 noms. My question is, when I apply for the class of 2014, will i still have a good chance at getting noms? Or will I be viewed as a washed up wanna be? I will be taking the same college courses that plebes will get, and earning an A/B average should not be a problem. Also, I have fairly decent S.A.T scores according to the Academies regional Director, so this should definately help, right? Any input would be great, as well as any ideas people have for increasing my competitivness. A side note, I know people say this all the time, but for those of us out here without a clue, this forums is a Godsend.
     
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  2. jennyp

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    Go for it!

    On the contrary, I think applying a second year is viewed as having persistence and dedication. However, you need to get a handle on what the weaknesses were in your application. And work to improve whatever that was...........I think the numbers are fairly good for repeat applicants.

    Go for it!
     
  3. kaullman

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    Persistance Pays Dividends

    JennyP has it right, above. It is good to show perseverance. It is good to address all issues that may have led to your "Thin White Envelope." Each year's class is slightly different, but historically about 25-30% of each class has done something between HS and USNA. Those "somethings" include active-duty, NAPS, Foundation sponsored prep, prep on your own, Navy (and other) ROTC and other colleges. These folks are traditionally the ones that the other plebes look to for some leadership once they do get there, since they have other experiences.

    It is a good plan to mimic plebe year academics (Calc, Chem w/lab, Hist, Eng Comp), but realize you want these complete by the end of fall '09, so they can be on your college transcript.

    ROTC enrollment gives you an additional nom source, but you will want to apply for all noms you are eligible for, (yes another round with Sens and Rep, and even the Veep). Each Professor of Naval Science (NROTC unit CO) gets three noms, but only 20 appts are given to this group, nationwide.

    Go for it! Good luck! Go Navy!
     
  4. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Kaullman is correct!

    Okay, I'm not a navy guy as you all know. However I do work closely with my BGO counterparts and am familiar with their world as they are mine.

    WE are always pleased to find a candidate that's a "repeater." They're usually MUCH more determined, focused, and mature. In addition, they quite often will be college students and and already "on track" to their goals.

    In short, they're an ideal candidate!

    I also chair a nomination committee for my congressman. And I will tell you that we look VERY favorably on "second timers" because of the above reasons. Yes, we ask them questions: "Why do you think you were NOT accepted last year? What have you done to better improve your chances, etc...etc..."

    So...if you're serious...then re-read all above and take it to heart! Enroll in college/jr college, take the HARD courses, etc...etc. Maintain the highest fitness level you can, retake the SAT/ACT and get your scores as HIGH as you can. Be active, involved, etc.

    Gee...does this sound like the last several year? :smile:

    It doesn't change. BUT...both your congressman and the academy will view you DIFFERENTLY because you're NOT a high school student. If you have over a 3.0 in college classes (real classes, not jokes) then they will already know ONE key thing: that you can succeed in college academically. And that's a BIT thing they're trying to "predict" during the high school selection process.

    Just my 10 cents worth.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
    (rejected for ALL SA's class of 1982, renominated and selected for all classes of 1983 except USCGA)
     
  5. Ethands15

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    Thanks for the info. BTW, I kind of got the impression from my Regional Director that if I did well in college, (taking Calc, Chem. Hx, and English), that my S.A.T scores wouldn't matter anyway. I only have a 630 math and 640 English. Does anyone know if I should retake the S.A.T.? Or should I just concentrate on a sport this summer and college this fall?
     
  6. rksUSNA2013

    rksUSNA2013 Candidate Appointee

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    Don't worry about your SAT. Once you've taken college classes they pay very little attention to SAT and ACT scores. And I can tell you from experience they love second year candidates that have kept their mind on the USNA.

    If you really want to get in, it will take some work. Take tough science classes and do well, and if at all possible play a sport at your college. Clubs and Community service are very helpful. It will make for a tough year, but believe me, it's worth it when you get that letter in the mail.
     
  7. Cycling1222

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    Quick questions, if you are an NROTC mid and you are applying for noms, do you wear your uniform?
     
  8. peterset9

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    I am currently waiting on a decision for a second application the USNA and am a current NROTC Midshipman. I received my MOC nomination and interviewed with one of the two Senators. When I went to each interview I considered wearing my uniform, but opted against it because I wanted to get the appointments based on more than the fact that I was in a uniform. I don't think however that it would be inappropriate to wear a uniform for the interviews.
     

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