Seizure

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  1. Usafamom2016

    Usafamom2016 Member

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    I have a friend who was at summer training for West Point. Very sleep deprived and had a seizure. No brain tumor, thank goodness, but abnormal EEG and will need meds. Any idea if he will be automatically DQ'd?
     
  2. burnerafter16

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    It would be of much more importance what is causing the abnormal EEG. Dodmerb will have to clear her once she's well and decides to go through application.
     
  3. MabryPsyD

    MabryPsyD Dr. G.

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    I would screen for any previous history of seizures. Also dehydration could cause seizures and the abnormal EEG. Unless this person has a definitive diagnosis, the testing should continue before a DQd is issued. Maybe Tigger can provide an additional ddx on the topic.
     
  4. Usafamom2016

    Usafamom2016 Member

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    This person is already at West Point, not applying. No h/o seizures and was recommended to be treated with meds. Just concerned if they may be separated or if they will let them continue at WP while on meds.
     
  5. Tigger

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    With no history of seizures and with a brain tumor rule out then other considerations would include infection, hemorrhage, intoxication, etc.

    I am not familiar at all with what is considered DQ but I would imagine that seizures requiring ongoing medication would be quite serious.
     
  6. Maplerock

    Maplerock Proud to be an American

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    Hoping he has a quick recovery and a simple explanation is found...

    BUT...

    I wondered about future health insurance for him if he is DQ'ed. Since he took the oath, and was covered by Tri-Care when he experienced the seizure, would he be insurable under the military plan for his future?

    It seems a sticky situation. If DQ'ed and his coverage drops, he will be very difficult to insure at a reasonable rate.

    Can anyone with expertise in this area clarify?
     
  7. burnerafter16

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    The new provisions of the healthcare reform addressed the issue of preexisting conditions as not a valid reason to deny coverage anymore. Moreover, coverage under parents plan should be available until child reaches age 26.
     
  8. MabryPsyD

    MabryPsyD Dr. G.

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    i. Seizure disorders and epilepsy. Seizures by themselves are not disqualifying unless they are manifestations of epilepsy. However, they may be considered along with other disabilities in judging fitness. In general, epilepsy is disqualifying unless the Soldier can be maintained free of clinical seizures of all types by nontoxic doses of medications.

    Proper med management will prevent DQ. I don't have too many seizure patients, so I had to dig to find this provision.
     
  9. Tigger

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    That is interesting. I did have to chuckle at the "nontoxic doses of medication" line. I would certainly hope it was nontoxic!

    Seizure control is tricky and what is well-controlled can change quickly based on a variety of things (illness, lack of sleep, non-compliance with meds...). If seizures that are controlled are not an automatic DQ does that carry over to every job or do certain jobs have certain conditions that are automatic DQs?
     
  10. MabryPsyD

    MabryPsyD Dr. G.

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    I know if a patient had 2 seizures (1 while on meds), I'd recommend an evaluation for a MEDBOARD. I personally wouldn't serve with an individual who was seizure prone (yep I said it).
     
  11. Dad

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    I knew you had to be smart to be an MD.

    Too often we think about the me in the qualification process and forget that a person's medical condition could become a liability to the group serving with that person. Well said.
     
  12. MabryPsyD

    MabryPsyD Dr. G.

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    I'm a behavioral health officer (I don't want to misrepresent myself), but thanks. Its just too much of an unnecessary risk. Basic military tasks, such as driving a vehicle, become a liability.
     
  13. Maplerock

    Maplerock Proud to be an American

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    Back to my question...

    "I wondered about future health insurance for him if he is DQ'ed. Since he took the oath, and was covered by Tri-Care when he experienced the seizure, would he be insurable under the military plan for his future?

    It seems a sticky situation. If DQ'ed and his coverage drops, he will be very difficult to insure at a reasonable rate.

    Can anyone with expertise in this area clarify?


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    I have a lot of experience with sons and insurance. Now retired, to add a son on my plan would add $523 per month. Over $6200 per year, plus deductible.

    So I already knew that a dependent could be added. I just wondered if the young man would be covered by govt. insurance.
     

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