Senior Year High School

Discussion in 'ROTC' started by Rednosis, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. Rednosis

    Rednosis Member

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    Okay guys, its been a while. So little update since my last post, which was pretty much me requesting information about the AROTC, I've been hard at work this summer. I've been preparing for the APFT, running two miles everyday and doing pushups, pullups, and situps as required from what I saw on the US Army website.

    This September, my senior year of high school begins. So new questions arise as time is running short and hopefully closer to my goal of getting into a AROTC program. So here are my questions:

    1. How do I apply for the AROTC program of my school of choice?
    2. Who do I contact regarding applications and should I be expecting some sort of interview from that certain who?
    3. Should I worry first about getting accepted into the college rather than trying to get into the AROTC program?
    4. Is there a certain deadline that I need to have applied by?

    As you guys hopefully get to answer these questions I might ask more! Thanks again for all the help, I'll need all I can get!
     
  2. Jcleppe

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    First question, are looking to apply for the AROTC Scholarship?
     
  3. Jcleppe

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    I'll try and answer your questions assuming you are not submitting and application for the AROTC Scholarship.

    1. There is no application process, just sign up for the MS1 class, the MS Lab, and PT. through your college registration.

    2.You can contact the ROO,(Recruiting Operations Officer) that is attached to the ROTC Battalion at the college. You do not need an interview, just contact them and let them know you are enrolling so they can send you information about ROTC Orientation and the dates,

    3. Yes, get accepted to the school of your choice that has an AROTC battalion and then follow the steps in 1 and 2.

    4. You just need to be enrolled in the classes before the start of school and let the battalion know that you are enrolling so you can make it to orientation.

    Now, if you are planning to compete and apply for the AROTC Scholarship then everything is a lot different. You pushing the clock a bit but you can still get everything done if you get moving and stay on top of it. The answers I gave above are for those that are not applying for or did not receive a scholarship. There are a whole different set on answers for the scholarship process.
     
  4. Rednosis

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    Sorry late reply. Okay, please give me the steps for a scholarship process.
    And what exactly are the orientations?
     
  5. Pima

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    Rednosis,

    I have to ask how dedicated are you to the Army? Not to offend you too much, but I feel as you want us to walk you through the process, instead of taking charge of your own life.

    I am sure to be flamed, and I accept that, but the military wants and needs leaders that will rely on advice/guidance, but will also think for their self.

    We all want to help, but, your questions are so broad based it feels like you are using this site as your personal Google.

    I apologize for offending you, I apologize to posters and lurkers if I offended them with my post. I won't apologize for my belief that I feel some posters are now wanting to be spoon fed without putting any effort in. I.E. Please give me the steps for the scholarship process.

    Here you go:
    http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/high-school-students/faq.html
    They started accepting on line almost 7 months ago for your yr group. 2 months after your 1st post.

    I am waiting for the flaming, the red flag from the mods. I am okay with it. So flame on for this post.
     
  6. dunninla

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    Well,

    All that matters at this point is that you get your AROTC Scholarship application done within the next 2-3 weeks or so.

    I believe I read a post recently that to be considered for the October AROTC Scholarship Board, the first one, you'd have to have your file complete by Oct. 1.

    That means:

    - Online Applicaiton
    - PMS Interview
    - High School Counselor form filled out and returned
    - PFT Test
    - SAT/ACT Test results
    - not sure about High School Transcript...
     
  7. Jcleppe

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    Go to the GoArmy.com site and look through the site. There will be a section on Scholarships and a link to the online application. That site and the application instructions should give you all you need to know.

    Your a pushing the limit a bit in getting your application started, Dunninla is correct on the dates posted, you need to get started now. As far as orientations, you need to take the initiative to call the AROTC battalion and find out the what, where, and when regarding their orientation process.

    PIMA,

    No Flames from me on this one, Rednosis needs to do some searching on their own. I agree, we can be of help with some of the finer details but the applicant needs to take charge of their own application process.
     
  8. Rednosis

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    HAHAHAHA Flame on!

    Yeah, I guess I deserved that. My questions on my last post were kind of compliance and seeming not too much thought was put into because I was on vacation in Florida.

    But rest assured, I really am trying right now. My dedication to the Army? Well for that I guess my allegiance will be second to none once I'm actually in it.

    And thank you for the reply, I've filled out the applications and notified my guidance counselor of the progress I'm making.
     
  9. Pima

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    How are you in the Army right now and still in HS? I would assume you are only 17.
     
  10. Jcc123

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    Where does he say he's in the Army now?
     
  11. Pima

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    My bad, I really need to get glasses. I did not see the word once. I saw I'm actually in it.

    It raised my concerns for him because I know of kids that enlist in their sr. yr with a 1 yr wait. I also thought he may be comparing JROTC to ROTC.

    Like I said I need to get glasses! 1000 lashes with a lomein noodle to me...I prefer lomein over spaghetti!
     
  12. jbrichmond22

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    Rednosis: I have applied this year for the NROTC Scholarship as I am in my senior year just like you. I know the process is different for the Naval scholarship, but there are some traits that the AROTC shares.

    1. Get on your application, and get it done. The early bird gets the worm.
    2. Get with your guidance counselor, or at least I did, and have her help you with the GPA and class ranking information that may be inside your application.
    3. Call your local recruiting office (which is what I did), and introduce yourself. Tell them what you are doing and get an interview locked down. Knock the interview out, and explain to them how much the Army means to you- they will weed you right out if you just want the scholarship money. Make sure you know what you want to do in the Army and why you are applying for the scholarship.
    4. Write some grade A essays, and make sure they are from your heart, and straight to the point. The AROTC board doesn't want some sob story, they are investing in you so make sure you remember that when writing your essay, and going about your whole scholarship.

    Let me just say, so that I don't get ripped apart on this thread, that I am only a senior in high school, and I am simply trying to give you advice based on my experiences. The men and women on this thread know what they are talking about, and they are right in that they can't spoon feed you answers. If you want it so bad, you should know the process and what you have to do.

    As I have been told myself by Pima, and others, ask yourself if a scholarship is worth your life. You're serving your country, and putting your life on the line for our freedom after college is over; is that what you want?

    Hope I was helpful. Please anyone add to or critique what I said; I'm sure some of it may have been off.
     
  13. Pima

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    I would add one thing to what jb posted. Make sure that you have plan B regarding how to pay for that dream school.

    We all want to believe we won't be one of those cadets/mids that leave ROTC, but the fact is statistically a lot will leave. Some on their own accord, and some by being shown the door. It is not uncommon to lose 50% from freshman yr to the day you raise your hand and take the oath as an O1.

    This site has examples of this occurring in each and every branch. It is very hard emotionally either way, but harder when you are financially beholden to the ROTC scholarship. Talk to your folks and devise a plan to pay for the school without the scholarship. Make sure you put a buffer in there to include tuition increases. It was on the news today that since 08, the avg tuition rate has risen 25% over the last 4 yrs. You may be able to afford 10K a yr. for 4 yrs, but can you afford, 10, 11, 12.5K, and 14K? That is 7500 more than you planned. FAFSA loans have not increased at all over the same course of time from 08 to keep up with the tuition increase.

    Your freshmen yr is probably the hardest yr of college. Even if you are in JROTC right now and taking 7 APs pulling a 3.8 uwgpa, don't assume it will be just as easy in college. College is part academic and part social. It takes time for some to find the balance. Many times the academic area takes the hit, i.e. low cgpa.

    This ties into why you should also visit each and every school and the det also, that you can manage to do this fall. Colleges via their website and glossy brochures can't replace actually visiting the school. Schools have personality aspects that you can't feel unless you go there. Dets too. I know many of our kids friends that changed their lists after visiting the schools. Our DS2 actually took one off of his list totally after visiting the campus.
     
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  14. Rednosis

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    Its been a while.

    Hey! Its been a while but my application for the AROTC Scholarship has been underway. I just have some questions.

    1.) Due to the recent hurricane here in the northeast, my interview got postponed, but I already had it rescheduled and finished it. The Major that interviewed me gave me a score of 160 out of 200 (which might have been increased by 20 more points cause of an additional organization added onto my resume, still pending if it counts legitimately). SO with that said, is that a competitive score or is it pathetic one?

    2.) I had the interview last Monday (Nov.5). The Major gave me until Friday(Nov.9) to submit a certification document to state that I was a legitimate member of an organization, so that I could receive further points. My questions is, what happens now that I've given him every document he asked for?
    (On the Cadet Scholarship Application Status, it says that they've received everything except for my PMS Interview and Medical)

    3.) Like #2 above^, what becomes of my interview? Does my interviewer, The Major from the nearby AROTC Battalion send that in to cadet command? Or am I supposed to receive the results of the interview from him and then send it in myself to Cadet Command?

    4.) When and where can I get my DODMERB medical examination?

    OH one last thing, so the Major said in his final comments, which he was either writing down on the interview sheet or typing onto the computer, something along the lines of "...and I recommend that interviewee be offered a scholarship now." I was smiling like an idiot on the inside when he said that, but what does/can that mean?
     
  15. sshelto

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    Red, suggest you read through many of the posts that are on the Oct 15 AROTC board thread. The one from Clarksonarmy has a link to the make up of the whole person score which your interview is a part of. The PMS can prevent you from getting a scholarship but his reccomendation is only part of a positive outcome.

    (I am not able to post the link based on limited posts, perhaps you can find in the thread of another can post it)

    Once the PMS turns in your interview report, you will be ready for the next board (January) You will not be referred to DODMERB until you are selected for a scholarship.

    There is a tremendous amount of information on this board that you should review. My son and I have learned a great deal and were much more efficient and prepared for the scholarship process because of shared knowledge here. Thanks to all of you for that.
     
  16. Jcleppe

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    If the documentation the Major asked for was turned in on time and was found to be acceptable, I would imagine your score would go up to 180. 180 is a decent score, applicants have been awarded scholarships with a 180 score. A couple of the ROO's here have mentioned that anything below 180 could be a problem, let's hope your paperwork was all ok.

    The Major will now forward the interview to Cadet Command to be added to your application.

    If you are selected for a scholarship you will then be sent the paperwork from Dodmerb and they will direct you to where you can have your physical. There have been applicants in the past couple years that have received Dodmreb paperwork before receiving a scholarship, if you do receive the paperwork just follow the instructions.

    The PMS has two options on the interview form, "Recommend" or "Do Not Recommend", they have to select one or the other. The "Do Not Recommend" has more of an effect the the "Recommend". It will still be up to the Board, most applicants unless they are really lacking get the "Recommend"

    Best of luck on the next board.
     
  17. Rednosis

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    That thread was hectic. Link you noted above was very helpful, thanks for that!
     
  18. Rednosis

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    Alright so from what you said above, I'm not going to get anything regarding DODMERB until my application has been reviewed by the board regardless of whether I receive a scholarship or not? Oh and the Major that interviewed me told me that the date the next board meets is on Jan 7, 2013, so I shouldn't expect anything until after that date?
     
  19. Jcleppe

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    Correct.
     
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    You will receive DoDMERB instructions if you are awarded a scholarship. If you are awarded a scholarship, expect that you will be hearing from ROTC around the end of January or beginning of February. The previous October board met in the middle of October and applicants who received a scholarship were notified around the beginning of November. Good luck!
     

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