Slightly High Cholestrol

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  1. dkdino

    dkdino Member

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    I took a blood test and results came in that I had slightly higher cholesterol or above the normal range. Will this be a disqualification?
     
  2. Freda'sMom

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    No. I don't think they even draw blood during an admissions physical.
     
  3. EOD/SEALmom

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    Try taking some fish oil pills.
     
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    ktnatalk Sailor. Shipmate. Parent.

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    What? We can get medical advice on SAF too??? :jump1:
     
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  5. EOD/SEALmom

    EOD/SEALmom Member

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    Lol, my cholesterol was high a couple years ago too, it's what my doctor told me to take. Usually first choice before prescription medicines are necessary. Lowered my cholesterol! :)
     
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  6. dkdino

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    I thought it was required as part of the immunization and medical record..
     
  7. Cerberi

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    Just out of curiosity - are you a 2020 appointee?

    If so:

    You now have a diagnosed medical condition that represents a change if you have completed the DoDMERB process and been declared fit.

    What teenager gets screened for cholesterol less than 100 days before I-Day?

    If you are just starting the process for next year - you will have to declare the diagnosis.
     
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    ktnatalk Sailor. Shipmate. Parent.

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    Believe OP is heading to WP. Hooah! :D
     
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  9. time2

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    Being told as an adult you have high cholesterol is totally different from being told that as a h.s. student. Even real doctors won't dispense medical advice over the internet without seeing a patient, looking at their medical history, etc......I suggest you don't take random medical advice from people you don't even know.

    Also agree with the above comment, why are you being tested for this now? Did your prior DODMERB reveal any abnormalities (really more of a rhetorical question since I don't think you should post personal medical history here.)
     
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    Good point, my bad! (Although fish oil wouldn't hurt anyone)
     
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  11. time2

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    ^^ No problem !!!!

    I think the OP might have created a problem for himself with that blood test.
     
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  12. frenzymando

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    Why does the OP have to declare the diagnosis? High cholesterol is not on the list of disqualifying conditions.

    Also, only a physician can make an official diagnosis.

    "MEDICAL STANDARDS. Throughout this enclosure, ICD, CPT and HCPCS codes are
    included with most medical conditions and procedures, usually parenthetically, to aid cross-
    referencing. Unless otherwise stipulated, the conditions listed in this enclosure are those that do
    NOT meet the standard by virtue of current diagnosis, or for which the candidate has a verified
    past medical history.
    The medical standards for appointment, enlistment, or induction into the
    Military Services are classified by the general systems described in sections 3-3031 of this
    enclosure."

    I'm not sure how blood test readings work, but if a physician never diagnosed the OP with high cholesterol, the OP has not been officially diagnosed with high cholesterol nor does he have a verified past medical history, and under those circumstances, the instructions do not state anywhere that he must report the condition.
     
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  13. Cerberi

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    I may have falsely assumed that OPs blood test was not done under a doctor's care and/or his high cholesterol status is self diagnosed based on the blood test, if so I agree - if a doctor didn't diagnose it - it's not reportable.

    But at the same time, if a doctor did diagnose it, OP doesn't get to decide if it is disqualifying or not - DoDMERB does that.

    OP has agreed as a term of his accepting the appointment to disclose changes in his medical status.

    My initial reaction to the OP was why are you having medical tests this close to I Day? May be plenty of good reasons, his appears to be OP thought it was required as part of his immunization process.
     
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    West Point calls the report day for cadet candidates "R Day". It's short for Reception Day.
     
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    murfthesurf DS - USNA 2020

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    Oh! I thought R-Day = Report Day ? "Reception" ....ok..."Reception Day"? ...clearly this was miss-labeled years ago and no one at USMA has stepped up to correct it to Induction Day? You know like being "Inducted into the Army" as in being "Inducted into the Navy"

    Probably take an act of Congress..... :wiggle:
     
  16. OHmom16

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    Frenzy is right. The OP should not assume he/she has a diagnosis or medical condition based on a lab test. A "lab test " result is information that can or cannot lead to a diagnosis. Many factors can affect a lab test result--did you eat before the test, were you sick, on medication, etc....and even lab errors.That is why a physician reviews test results. If you have lunch and drink a milkshake before a having your glucose checked, you will have a result that is above normal--doesn't mean you have diabetes or even "high glucose." It could just mean the test was administered improperly (like not being fasting). Test ranges are also parameters and, depending on the "points" above normal may not even be considered "abnormal" at all by a physician. Maybe your test was not really abnormal at all, maybe it was, maybe it was due to your diet that day or the day before. That is why a physician (your physician) needs to interpret the results. That some why they go to medical school. You do not have the training to interpret those results or determine if they are even meaningful (nor does anyone other than your physician). My opinion would be that if he mentioned it, but did not suggest dietary changes, follow up testing, prescribe medication, etc. he is not concerned. Ask your physician.
     
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  17. Cerberi

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    The key takeaway

    DoDMERB is a dream killer. Read the threads on the DoDMERB forum. Great young men and women are denied their dreams because they have a truly limiting medical condition or they have disclosed issues that aren't issues and then get entangled in the process of trying to explain it away

    You have passed DoDMERB
    You have received an Appointment

    You better have a damned good reason to see your personal physician at this point and an even better reason to have blood drawn.

    Frenzy is dead wrong because he is quoting a regulation and implying a layperson is qualified to interpret both the blood test, the results of the bloodtest, the treatment plan, and what DoDMERB would think of any of it.

    It matters what the doctor writes in the chart (and high cholesterol has many definitions) and what the doctor recommends for treatment.

    OP will not be authorized any medications during basic unless prescribed and issued by USMA medical personnel.

    OP has a blood test, if a doctor says he has a diagnosis and prescribes a treatment plan - his medical status has changed and by rule he must declare it

    Add to it that OP has posted a
    Picture which is probably of himself and he has opened up a can of worms if he doesn't disclose because now people know who he is

    Frankly - I wouldn't disclose it, but the rules under which he accepted his appointment require him to do so if the doctor diagnosis it.
     
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  18. frenzymando

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    Please quote where I implied this. I never made those implications.

    "if a physician never diagnosed the OP with high cholesterol, the OP has not been officially diagnosed with high cholesterol nor does he have a verified past medical history, and under those circumstances, the instructions do not state anywhere that he must report the condition."

    That is what I said^ and I see nowhere in my post that I imply that a layman is qualified to make the things you listed. Please point out where I made the implications you are allegating that I made.
     
  19. time2

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    ^^ geez dude get over yourself.
     
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  20. Cerberi

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    You quoted a regulation. It is reasonable to assume you want the reader to imply you have some knowledge of what DoDMERB thinks is important. My point is (a) the regulation is not for us to interpret (b) as a condition of the appointment OP is required to report any changes that might impact what DoDMERB thinks
    It actual says 'any injury, illness or surgery....' And to send any substantiating documentation to DoDMERB

    Now you could certainly argue high cholesterol (which at some levels is in the grey area of medical conditions) does not qualify as an injury, illness or surgery.

    My key point - don't go to the doctor without a compelling reason at this point

    Also - don't post a picture of of yourself on a forum which appears the OP has done - plausible deniability was a lot easier 30 years ago

    There is a process to follow to gain entry into an SA. Learning where other people made it harder is what some of us are trying to help others avoid. OP already has a blood test post DoDMERB.

    My hope is others will learn to consider whether a blood test or any medical appointment/procedure is necessary post DoDMERB in the future.

    It's too late for OP to consider it because he already has.
     
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