Smaller Class Size for 2018?

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  1. JShawshank

    JShawshank Member

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    I saw the below on the USNA Admissions FB page:

    Question: What is the maximum number of midshipman that will be admitted this fall?

    Naval Academy Admissions: The exact number varies, but it will be around 1100.

    All of the stats that I've seen for incoming classes in recent years have been +/- 1,200 admitted (I'm assuming the Admissions reference was the I-Day number and not the appointments). Any insights from the forum on reduced class size and proportionate reduction in number of appointments this year?
     
  2. kinnem

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    The Navy is downsizing so they need fewer officers.
     
  3. nuensis

    nuensis USNA 2016

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    The size of the Brigade is also capped out at ~4400. Might be a long shot, but perhaps the current Brigade is larger than average (less attrition). There's only so many beds in Bancroft.
     
  4. dell

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    Do you think that really means that everyone who did not receive an offer of appointment at this time should start looking at Plan B?
     
  5. grevar

    grevar CGA Admissions Partner

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    Not at all. Still plenty of time to get the appointment. Id say not even a third have been issued yet. The bulk go out between now and April 15.

    Always good to have Plan B ready to go though.


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  6. NavyGenerationSkip

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    I am simply a parent waiting like everyone else, but if you have not received a TWE, then you are still in the hunt. For some, this wait could last up to 3 more months. Maybe you, maybe us, maybe whomever is reading this right now. Be smart and do everything you can to make plan B (and C) become a great possibility. Apply for outside scholarships. Talk to their admissions people and make sure you have done all you can.

    DS competed this past weekend for top scholarships at his plan B school. He had an absolute blast and feels good about his standing there. That school has recruited him heavily and I'm so glad he has them and his plan C to concentrate his effort on since plan usnA is such a mystery. He still bolts to the mailbox every day, but he is working hard to solidify his other possibilities.

    Take heart and pray, then work on the others. You'll feel better.
     
  7. bubalma

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    Not at all. There isn't much coming out of Admissions right now other than BFE's to 3Q'ed recruited athletes, LOA's and principal nominees. Look for the dam to start breaking in March.
    That being said, you've needed to have a "Plan B" in place already since there are no guarantees in life.
     
  8. Prepswimmom

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    Great post NavyGenerationSkip. My DS has a solid plan B with great academic scholarship that will put him in NROTC. Waiting to here from his other schools but USNA is the top top choice! It is a mystery what goes on in that admissions room. You know if your child applies to an Ivy for example whether they will get in or not. Just look at SATs and GPA. But this whole Navy thing is as clear as mud. No one can know what it's like unless you have a child going through it. The highs and lows - are they 3Q - are their recs good enough - did they do enough leadership - are their SATs good enough. It has been an amazing year since DS got into NASS. When he called me on the second day there I could hear in his voice he had found his place in the world - his perfect school. He wants USNA more than anything and is committed to serving a career in the navy. The mailbox is our obsession. I know he will hear eventually. I just thank God for all the great support on this forum.


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  9. Prepswimmom

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    But are the recruited athletes 3Q? I saw a recruited athlete profiled in US News college issue with a 3.2 GPA and 550/550 SATs. My DS is actually 3Q.


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  10. NJ-USNA2018hopeful

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    Seems like yesterday my DS was in his glory at NASS and in just a few weeks we will know if they will be able to make their NAVY dreams come true. It's been a roller coaster that no one understands but us. Enjoy these last few months with your children - wherever they go - they will be gone before we know it. I just keep praying that it will be at USNA.

    GO NAVY!!!
     
  11. bubalma

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    Ah, that's a good question; BUT if you look at class stats you will see that there are appointees with pretty low test scores too.
    I would guess that scholastic qualification is kind of a moving target where recruited athletes or legacies are involved.
     
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    You would be right about the recruited athletes, standards there are lower but not so for legacies in most cases.
     
  13. Prepswimmom

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    I know recruits are held to a different standard. The kid they profiled said he liked the feel of the campus when he visited. Not exactly the thing someone would say who was dying to go to USNA. Frustrating when my DS is solely focused on getting in.


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  14. SC2015

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    The waiting is hard, but it is still early in the game...

    I know many college acceptances are coming out now, but don't get discouraged if you haven't heard anything from USNA yet - it's still early, as far as the admissions dept. goes. Our current mid got a call from MOC on March 26th (I remember it like it was yesterday) - the tension in our household was so high, plan B (NROTC at Villanova) was in place but he wouldn't give up on USNA. Hang in there, and don't give up the ship - I find it does help to know that we're all in this together (we're currently waiting on USNA news for youngest DS):eek:
     
  15. Casbus08

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    Some kids express excitement in many different ways. There is a very good chance that this kid wants to get into USNA and be a Naval or Marine Corps officer as bad as our kids. 550/550 might be the best score he could get but still could make a great MIDN. Lets just stay positive and support all of these great kids as much as we can.
     
  16. Prepswimmom

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    The young man is a Mid now. Maybe he did want to go as badly as all our kids - it just didn't come across that way in USN&WR -
     
  17. Casbus08

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    There you go, great news and good for him.
     
  18. nuensis

    nuensis USNA 2016

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    Maybe he just didn't want to engage in a deep spiritual conversation about his personal motivations with a rankings website.

    Not everyone who arrives on I-Day has lofty aspirations. And some of the most motivated, gung ho plebes don't make it to 2 for 7.

    Some mids don't want to be here. But they didn't get an ROTC scholarship and they want to be officers. Some couldn't pay for civilian college. Some weren't accepted to USMA or USAFA, so they came here.

    The Brigade is not full of people who had dreamed of being officers since they were five, or whatever. Everyone has their own reasons, and some reasons are better than others.
     
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  19. Vista123

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    I would agree with all except change the last line to read:

    "...and some reasons may seem better than others."
     

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