So I officially didnt get in. HELP

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  1. ryshere

    ryshere New Member

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    Today I recieved the letter in the mail saying that I my admission into west point has been officially DENIED. So, what to do...

    1. Army ROTC scholarship, than transfer over.

    2. Enlist, and go for the prep school




    Also, say that I did recieve a usmaps offer, would it neccessarily be in the same day as my letter of denial?

    When have you heard of getting an offer for usmaps? March, April, May, June?



    I WILL go to West Point, regardless of what happens, but I just want to know what is the best way in my current situation.
     
  2. AquaRain_2009

    AquaRain_2009 Member

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    No, an appointment to the Prep School. Isn't the same as your chances of getting into West Point are much better if you go to Prep School for a year. I'm going for USNA in the summer. I think you should go to USMAPS. It would most likely benefit you.
     
  3. chiazo

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    i would say enlist and do army ROTC. Also, if you got into USMAPS you wouldn't receive a letter saying you were not admitted into the academy you would just receive a USMAPS offer of admission
     
  4. Shades

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    Sorry to hear about your letter. I know the next review board meets mar. 9.
    You should call or email your Counselor or Ms. Grady and have your file sent to Cadet Command Fort Monroe ( Attention Ms. Matthews) or FEDEX your on copies to Cadet Command. Address
    Department Of The Army
    Headquarters, United States Army Cadet Command
    Fort Monroe, VA 23651-5000
    Fedex Paperwork, if you have not completed? Monday
    you can use the DODMERB, and CFA, all from USMA
    You should call closest AROTC unit to you and schedule a PMS
    They can send report ASAP to Cadet Command in time for Mar 9th R.B.
    Good luck, remember our goal is to be Officers
    If you still want WP you can reapply next Spring after you distinguish yourself in AROTC.
    Besides the Scholarship saves a lot of money.

    Hope this helps
     
  5. usma 2013 hopeful

    usma 2013 hopeful Prospective

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    I didn't receive an appointment to usma either and to was plagued with the task of choosing arotc or enlisting. I was offered a campus based 4 year scholarship for arotc and received a waiver for the condition that disqualified me from usma. Next saturday I'm officially enlisting and hoping to reapply to west point. Hope you find the way to west point. I completely understand how bad it sucks to not be going to west point the year you planned. Just keep your head up and drive on.



    GOOD LUCK!!
     
  6. bruno

    bruno Retired Staff Member

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    Can I ask why you are doing that and not taking the ARTOC scholarship? The recruiter's words aside- you do realize that the odds are not in your favor for getting to USMA this way? In relative terms there may be a few more soldiers getting into the academy than before but in fact - its still a very low % and you will have an obligation that will pretty much preclude you from going to college for several years. I am not suggesting at all that there is anything wrong with enlisting or enlisted service, but I am suggesting that it is neither a direct nor statistically very sure way of getting into USMA and you ought to be prepared to be spending several years in an enlisted MOS and not in college or West Point, and your ability to change your mind is pretty well constrained once you have enlisted. So if your short term goal in doing this is because someone has told you this is another way to get into USMA- while true it has a lot of other implications.
     
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  7. usma 2013 hopeful

    usma 2013 hopeful Prospective

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    the arotc scholarship came after I made up my mind. I also wasn't sold on AROTC wasn't really what I wanted. I am more willing to take my chances in the army then be miserable at college for a year.
     
  8. pinnedalltheway

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    Why don't you go to the Citidel or VMI if you want the experience of a military college? Also, if you accept your AROTC scholarship and do well at whatever school you choose, you can apply to the USMA for the class of 2014 or 15 or 16, if you're that pressed about it. That way if you don't get in to the USMA, you will still be an officer and have a college degree. I wouldn't recommend enlisting if you have an AROTC scholarship--that's a round about way to go with no guarantee of a commission.
     
  9. bruno

    bruno Retired Staff Member

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    hmm- I assume then that you are prepared to not get into any commissioning program for at least the terms of your enlistment contract? Again- this route is going to guarantee only one thing- that you are in the Army. (Unless you are guaranteed USMAPS and that's what you mean by enlisting,) this is indeed a very circular route to getting a commission with nothing guaranteed at all regardless of what an Army recruiter may be pitching. So if you are enlisting to get an appointment to USMA I think that you are making a mistake. If you are enlisting because more than anything else you want to be a soldier and the commission is really secondary- then you are doing the right thing. Realistically however you should know that you are most likely deferring college at the least for quite some time. Does that mean you can't get into USMA from active duty? No. Should you bet on it? No. If that's a problem- don't enlist. If that's ok- enjoy your service and hopefully you are getting an MOS that you will enjoy and excel in.
     
  10. Tachyon

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    Is this process above to improve one's odds of getting reviewed favorably at the next review board at West Point or is this process to get a scholarship thru AROTC?
    Thanks
     
  11. Shades

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    Meghan

    Hate to play Devil's advocate, however if you do not think you would like ROTC and college, you would never make West Point . You would have to be willing to put up with a lot of things you would not like for 4 years in order to make through WP. Excuse me, but your goal should be to become an Officer, no matter what it takes. I was told, and I believe that applying for all options shows that your serious and have the determination to make it happen.
    A lot of good officers have come from ROTC. Good luck as a private, you may end up riding on a supply truck for 3, 4, 5, 6 years, or answering a phone, serving meals, etc... ROTC you could train in the summer, jump school, air assault and earn a commission. You'll be lucky to apply for OCS.

    Be careful and learn all you can
     
  12. Just_A_Mom

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    I am not sure of your thought process. Even if you signed papers to enlist you can still change your mind and accept the AROTC scholarship.

    Think about long term - what happens if USMA does not approve your medical waiver. You are three or four (or however many years you signed up for) in the Army. This is not a bad thing - we all just want you to know the reality.

    If you don't have any money for college - I would actually recommend enlisting. You will get much more out of the New GI bill than ROTC - where in most places you have to come up with room and board.
    If you just want to be in the Army - some people do it that way. They enlist - earn their degree and commission through OCS. IMO - it's the "hard" - at least lengthy way. There are advantages though.

    I do know plenty cadets who got to USMA via enlisting. They really didn't know USMA existed when they enlisted. I have never met a cadet who enlisted in order to gain an appointment.
    That said - USMA really values those with prior service. While some don't make it though and end up going back to the ranks, others do very well.
    As soon as you graduate from boot camp you can start the process. A plebe I know enlisted in 2007 after high school graduation. She had a lovely 1/2 tuition scholarship but didn't have the rest of the money for college so she enlisted. After boot camp she went to the DLI in Monterey, heard about applying to West Point and had her appointment in December.
     
  13. Maximus

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    As JAM mentioned above, money can be the deciding factor for some, the Citadel will have you on the hook personally for approximately $12,000 for the first year.
    And, as to simply changing schools, most applicants will have filled out the college/ROTC lists and to simply change over to The Citadel or VMI, is not really an option this late in the game. They will not let you change your preference of schools after the board meets.
     

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