Pima
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Okay, I think it is time to address the elephant in the room.
JAM it is my perception that as a Mom of a DD you are fighting the battle for women. I respect that. I get it, but I also think you have a men against women issue regarding the military. The majority of the hot topic debates that you are involved in center around the military injustices to women...subs, PT and not harassment. NOt saying there is no basis for your position or that I don't agree, just saying it seems to be your platform.
Do you honestly believe that the military has these injustices running rampant through the system, or are you searching for answers as a Mom who wants the best for their child regarding their future? Is it fear for your DD that motivates you or is it the expansion of knowledge and why these "injustices" exist?
To be honest, I think you want both, but are unwilling to acknowledge that the military is not sexist. The service members expect and demand the same level from everyone regardless of gender or rank. There is no freebie out. I support the military partially because I have seen that gender mean squat when it comes to promotion. A female can get a kill just as easy as a male, and regardless of their sex, their career got a bump.
I can be 100% off the mark, I am just saying my perception. FWIW, I am sure you will say the perception of me is a Hard Arse. I claim that and accept that. I see the military in a black and white issue, rarely seeing grey. I will also say that being a spouse of a military member of 20+ yrs, I rarely saw the Army or the AF saying that there is a dark grey regarding anything. It was a life of you will do this at this time. It was DP or P on PRF's, not P, but could be DP. It was pass or fail regarding fitness tests, not oh they passed the running, but failed the sit ups, should we pass them?
It is not perfect, but it is a system that works, and one they continue to improve upon, when they have clear cut decisions.
Sexual harassment exists and I don't believe anyone on this board would deny the fact that it does. However, I also think that the majority are not willing to bite off that it is rampant, or they are in denial. It is my opinion you were fighting saying that the Pentagon says it exists at this rate, look there is an issue, it is rampant and needs to be fixed. Whereas, others are saying, yes, it exists, yes the Pentagon is working to fix it, but let's not all shutter up our windows and start fearing the military that they might rape our DDs or hide the rapes for career purposes. It felt that you were implying it is more prevalent in the military than the "real" world. That is my opinion of how I read your posts. I can be wrong, but it is my perception.
JAM it is my perception that as a Mom of a DD you are fighting the battle for women. I respect that. I get it, but I also think you have a men against women issue regarding the military. The majority of the hot topic debates that you are involved in center around the military injustices to women...subs, PT and not harassment. NOt saying there is no basis for your position or that I don't agree, just saying it seems to be your platform.
Do you honestly believe that the military has these injustices running rampant through the system, or are you searching for answers as a Mom who wants the best for their child regarding their future? Is it fear for your DD that motivates you or is it the expansion of knowledge and why these "injustices" exist?
To be honest, I think you want both, but are unwilling to acknowledge that the military is not sexist. The service members expect and demand the same level from everyone regardless of gender or rank. There is no freebie out. I support the military partially because I have seen that gender mean squat when it comes to promotion. A female can get a kill just as easy as a male, and regardless of their sex, their career got a bump.
I can be 100% off the mark, I am just saying my perception. FWIW, I am sure you will say the perception of me is a Hard Arse. I claim that and accept that. I see the military in a black and white issue, rarely seeing grey. I will also say that being a spouse of a military member of 20+ yrs, I rarely saw the Army or the AF saying that there is a dark grey regarding anything. It was a life of you will do this at this time. It was DP or P on PRF's, not P, but could be DP. It was pass or fail regarding fitness tests, not oh they passed the running, but failed the sit ups, should we pass them?
It is not perfect, but it is a system that works, and one they continue to improve upon, when they have clear cut decisions.
Sexual harassment exists and I don't believe anyone on this board would deny the fact that it does. However, I also think that the majority are not willing to bite off that it is rampant, or they are in denial. It is my opinion you were fighting saying that the Pentagon says it exists at this rate, look there is an issue, it is rampant and needs to be fixed. Whereas, others are saying, yes, it exists, yes the Pentagon is working to fix it, but let's not all shutter up our windows and start fearing the military that they might rape our DDs or hide the rapes for career purposes. It felt that you were implying it is more prevalent in the military than the "real" world. That is my opinion of how I read your posts. I can be wrong, but it is my perception.
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