Sophomore College Student and Teacher Recommendations

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  1. ck15

    ck15 Member

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    I will be a sophomore applying for USNA 2021. I did not take an English course my freshman year of college because of AP credits. What should I do regarding the English teacher recommendation?
    For my math recommendation, my professors don't even know my name. This isn't too surprising when you have a 100+ student class that meets twice a week. Even by going to office hours I might as well be a complete stranger to them. Better teachers and an overall higher quality education is a large reason why I want to attend USNA. However, what should I do regarding my math recommendation? I am in NROTC and we have a battalion tutor that knows me well, can the tutor recommend me?
     
  2. Spud

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    Have you applied before? I don't understand what you mean when you say you did not take an English course because of AP credits. Do you mean you did not take a Freshman English course because your prior AP course in high school validated the college course?
     
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  3. ck15

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    I have applied before. I am a third time applicant now. I took English 101 and 102 my Senior year of high school which validated my college English requirement. So I did not take English this year (freshman year of college).
     
  4. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    I would ask your Admissions Counselor (closer to the summer) about the English recommendation...I don't have an answer for that (I would be prepared for your senior year H.S. teacher, just in case). For the math, it is April, you still should have about a month...I would approach the professor now and let them know you will need a recommendation...maybe they can pay closer attention to you in the next month and submit an accurate assessment/recommendation when the application opens. Alternatively, if you are taking a math course next semester, you can wait until towards the end of the fall semester. I am 99.9% sure that a math tutor will not be acceptable. Are you taking any humanities courses that involve literature/writing (this or next semester)?

    This is a good lesson for any re-applicants that want to use a college professor. If you are in a large section class, make sure you approach the professor towards the beginning of the semester and let them know you will need a recommendation towards the end. I hate to say "play the game," but when it comes to a large crowd and you need to standout (not as in better than someone else) so the professor remembers you....sitting in front of class, officer hours, asking questions, etc. all help. Otherwise you will be lost in the crowd and might not get the recommendation that reflects your efforts.
     
  5. 5Day

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    I would also make sure you give your professors that are writing reccomendations all the information they need to write the type of Rec you want. A resume, list of activities and accomplishments and key points you want them to emphasize like leadership. Make it as easy as possible for them. If you can find the form or questions they will be asked (try google searching) you could tailor the info you provide to those questions.
     
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  6. Spud

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    During Plebe Year, the fourth classmen get crawled on constantly for a sin called "failure to anticipate" and you seem to have developed that skill to high degree. The Academy website states quite clearly to take an English course and by going through the process prior you knew that you also needed an English teacher's recommendation. So you go to college and choose not to take an English course. Now you are puzzled because you have no English teacher. Did you think that if you did not take a course that the Academy would say "Oh, well, we'll just ignore what we say and you get a free pass."? Did you ever call your Regional Director and ask about this last August? Or your BGO? I would bet double or nothing that you repeated that poor decision and are not taking an English class this semester either. USNA is very clear that they only want 2 recommendations---your math and English teacher. Not your PE teacher, not family friends, not an Admiral you know, and not a tutor. Just your Math and English teachers....just two. There is no shortage of English writing classes at your school. I would call your RD and ask what you can do and see if you can take an English writing class in the fall and have that prof write a letter about the November time frame as your application won't even be looked at as a college student until you have completed that semester.

    You have a math class with 100+ students and your prof does not know your name? What else is new at State U.? You say there is no use in going to office hours because you "might as well be a stranger"? Sounds like you kissed that off too. And this also has been going on since last September, right? You know, if you want to go to the Academy you need to take charge of your life and stop drifting along expecting things to be taken care of by magic. I will not even tell you how to get in front of your math prof as if you cannot find a way or make one, your place will be taken on I-day by a college student who did.

    Just as a point of reference, I, too, was a 3 time applicant and went after two full years of college. I had an English teacher so crappy with a foreign accent so thick that no one could understand the lectures, and my math classes were overflowing such that we were not even taught by graduate students but by TVs in multiple lecture halls. Now, get this. This was 50 years ago and nothing has changed but literally thousands of college candidates have beat your problems since then and have raised their right hand on a June day. You gotta start moving, dude.
     
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  7. ck15

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    I appreciate the responses. To clarify, I do regularly attend office hours. I received advice through an admissions briefing that I should plan my curriculum for what best fits my college life (guaranteed), not to what might get an appointment (no guarantee).
     

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