Steve Jobs dies; Apple co-founder was 56

Whatever. I don't particularly have any need to do anything for Mr Jobs but I do have the ability to see phenomenal accomplishments for what they are - even when I don't particularly like the person who is so accomplished. And I frankly can't understand someone who has the bad grace to decide that he alone has the ability to decide that somebody is unworthy of recognition just because. So while others can guess what I really want at this point I will politely say- goodnight LITS.

No need for me to "guess" about him at all. Others are free to deify him, to place him on this pedestal, but for those of us who know what we are talking about, well, let's say we aren't as enamored of his publicity-fueled persona that has beguiled those on the periphery.
 
I talked to Woz's assistant once. Was going to nominate him for a DOD program, but he was unable to attend because of the timing.
 
No need for me to "guess" about him at all. Others are free to deify him, to place him on this pedestal, but for those of us who know what we are talking about, well, let's say we aren't as enamored of his publicity-fueled persona that has beguiled those on the periphery.

Thanks. I needed my laugh for the night.
 
No need for me to "guess" about him at all. Others are free to deify him, to place him on this pedestal, but for those of us who know what we are talking about, well, let's say we aren't as enamored of his publicity-fueled persona that has beguiled those on the periphery.
Good Lord - why all this hate on a dead man? Jealousy? Did your Big Blue stock suffer under Jobs' Apple leadership?
Heck at least wait until he is buried.
Stick with your Zune - is it dead or alive? lol
Think I will keep my iPod.
 
Good Lord - why all this hate on a dead man?

Death doesn't change the truth.

And no hatred, just a correction of many misunderstandings about his alleged inventing "genius."

And laughing at some of the posts here from those who knew nothing about his actions other than what they read in the newspaper.
 
Who - any where Actually said that this man Invented a thing??? You do understand the difference between the role of innovation and invention?? Of the vast majority of the companies in the world that have R&D - how many people focus on the patent holder when evaluating the success of the company in bringing out new products? How many really interesting and in some cases cutting edge products die in the garage because at the end of the day- They didn't get brought to market in a way that is both creative and visionary? And how many companies fail to harness the energy and synergies of their employees to ensure that not just one but a steady stream of industry leading products are developed and marketed in a way that is truly revolutionary. Innovative companies are that way because they have leaders that understand good ideas, devote the resources to make them better and understand how to get them out and broadly accepted.

To argue that Jobs was anything other than truly a remarkable leader and visionary businessman responsible for the rise of a remarkable company, just because somebody else did the technical grunt work (which he and countless others all acknowledge, and nobody posting here ever disputed. Both he and Wozniak acknowledge that the Mouse and the GUI were concepts that they glommed onto from Xerox.) is beyond petty. You apparently have a problem because I compared Jobs to Thomas Edison in his impact. Thomas Edison would be a footnote to history if he didn't actually get his products to market - He was a successful businessman and entrepreneur and his legacy is General Electric and Con Ed and all the other Edison Electric companies. Henry Ford invented nothing. He is remembered as a revolutionary businessman for his harnessing of already existing production concepts to bring out cost effective automobiles to satisfy and change an entire market. Sam Walton didn't invent squat- but who in the United States today would argue that he did anything other than revolutionize the consumer marketing and distribution world? If you can't recognize remarkable achievements because you think that Joe Schlobotnik who actually invented the user interface that made possible the MacIntosh operating system - well then you live in a constrained, crabbed little world and (as someone else said in an earlier post) are the equivalent of the person watching Ron Popeil and getting angry because you thought of the "Schwarma King" that is selling for $19.95.

Newsflash- All of us are insiders when it comes to evaluating the role of Apple Computers in the tech revolution of the last 25 years- because we buy and use those computers, Cell phones, Ipods, IPads, go watch Pixar animated movies etc... And those of us who don't buy them, work in places where we understand that what makes successful organizations is leadership, drive and vision. So if you don't recognize Steve Jobs for being a remarkable man- your call- Feel free to Keep laboring away in that garage waiting for the world to beat it's way to you with your better mousetrap. I would frankly think that someone posting on a web site that recognizes the importance of leadership would recognize the characteristics that made the man and the company such a phenomenal success, but of course I'm just an outsider who has made money betting on Apple and not Xerox (thankfully). But then again I also am a big believer in Bill Gates and what he has accomplished- I suppose that I should also rethink that since I'm not privileged to be "on the inside" by one definition.
This whole thread has become both laughable and sad. I'm finished with it.
 
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I laugh as I review the many posts that tell us we cannot possibly know what it is like to be an "insider" at a service academy since we didn't go there, but anyone who turns on a Mac or buys a ticket to Finding Nemo is an industry insider. lol

I'm done with thread as well, continue to build a monument to Steve Jobs, the greatest marketing genius who ever borrowed an idea.
 
There is a good amount of animosity regarding Jobs in the tech industry and he certainly wasn't a perfect person but the terms "genius" and "visionary" do absolutely apply in his case. You don’t have to be an insider to see that just ask most any Apple customer – and it’s ALL about the customer experience – something that many business leaders consistently forget.
 
Death doesn't change the truth.

And no hatred, just a correction of many misunderstandings about his alleged inventing "genius."

And laughing at some of the posts here from those who knew nothing about his actions other than what they read in the newspaper.

sent from my iPhone

:shake:

kidding.....
 
Just as a random aside to the rest of this post I have an odd story from the day he died. I got my senior photos back and we were looking through them. A few of my casual shots include my grandfather's acoustic that he handed down to me. He also had put an Apple icon on the guitar to cover up a hole in the front. My mom looked and said, "Your stupid Apple sticker made it into my son's photos!" I replied with, "Jobs is everywhere o_O" Three minutes later (while still looking at photos) the news informed us Jobs had just died. They blamed his death on me cause I jinxed him :eek:
 
Edison and Jobs

An analogy of Thomas Edison and Steve Jobs, from today's NY Times:

The Wizard and the Mortal: Two Sides of Genius

The broad outpouring that has followed the death of Steve Jobs reminds me of the display of grief following Edison’s death. In both cases, their passing evoked an extraordinary public response, tributes that were greater and broader than those paid to many a head of state. Why is that?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/business/an-analogy-of-thomas-edison-and-steve-jobs.html?hp
 
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