Stories from college reapplicants

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  1. anne99

    anne99 Member

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    I would really like to hear the stories of those of you who are or have children that reapplied after getting a denial with USNA. DS needs some hope. Wishing I could find some stats on what percentage of reapplicants are successful.
     
  2. jonesie

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    I can help! I am currently a freshman who was denied from USNA and ROTC scholarship last year. I started the college program NROTC in the fall, and have since picked up the ROTC scholarship as well as an appointment to USNA.
    The initial shock was rough, but it got better with time. It definitely stings for a few weeks, but it goes away eventually. I think the thing I wish someone had told me is that the rejection makes you stronger. Having another year to develop academically, mentally, and physically has helped me beyond compare. I feel much more prepared to go to the Academy after my experiences in college.
    I will say, the chances for reapplicants are much better. The academy is trying to get more reapplicants. Only 1/3 of the incoming class comes directly from high school. 1/3 is NAPS and the other 1/3 is prior enlisted/reapplicants. So definitely think about reapplying if your DS is really passionate about it! Many people get to their plan B school and decide not to reapply, but it is really a personal decision.
     
  3. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    jonesie, the stats are not correct...about 2/3 come from high school...the other 1/3 are college re-applicants, Foundation, and NAPS (2/3 of the prior enlisted enter from NAPS...the other 1/3 are accepted directly into USNA) See: http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/_files/documents/ClassPortrait.pdf.
    Doing well in plebe-like courses, getting involved in ECAs, leadership positions (might be a little more challenging to figure out, but possible), and participating in some type of athletics is key. As I posted on another thread...you need to prove, beyond all doubt, that you can handle the USNA lifestyle.
    FWIW, I was a college re-applicant.
     
  4. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    I would expect that stats probably favor reapplicants in terms of success rate. That extra year of seasoning build maturity and determination.

    The decision to reapply rests on the candidate's primary goal. If the objective is to commision through a service academy then they should definitely reapply! If the goal is to commission as quickly as possible, then reapplying works against that objective.
     
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  5. anne99

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    Where DS is going to college, most students take 5 years to complete the engineering program. So one year at college and 4 at USNA sort of evens that out.

    More success stories out there? Any advice is also much, much appreciated. I am wondering how to go about getting leadership opportunities as a freshman. Corps of Cadets or ROTC will be very limited in that area I suspect. DS is looking into the triathlon team as a sport though. He's been a competitive swimmer for years.
     
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    I have heard that some MOCS prefer to nominate reapplicants because their determination and interest is proven by reapplying. Heard that from our own MOC's offices as well.
     
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    Another option is going to a SA prep school/college. In addition to school they have leadership opportunities available and help with the reapplication process as well. It was the best thing that my DS could have done. He was awarded an appointment (USAFA but had several USNA friends/classmates) and is much better prepared. If used properly the extra year is a blessing.
     
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    Our MOC said the same thing and our DS was given the Principal nom second time around.
     
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  9. Jimmay

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    When you reapply to USNA what has to be redone in your Application i.e. CFA, Trancripts, recommendations e.t.c.? I am still in the running for the class of 2020 but I would like to be educated about a very likely possibility.
     
  10. 5Day

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    Short answer is everything except dodmerb. Medical is good for 2 years. Wavers do not carry over.

    Look at the USNA admissions website they have info for re applicants. Also, your essay MUST be new / different.
     
  11. Jimmay

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    Thank you for the info
     
  12. eagle16

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    Anyone have list of SA prep schools? Hate to think of repeating senior year when he already has nearly 18 hours of college credit, but leaving all the options open before we commit to a Plan B school.
     
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    This is the list of USNA Foundation Schools. Remember that each SA has their own list of prep schools they send sponsored prepsters too. The list isn't all the same. Also, this is a small fraction of schools that are out there. Also, before committing to a prep school I highly recommend you speak to the admissions counselor after things settle down and found out the weakness in your application. For some, its purely a numbers game (just look at the kid with 800 SATs... NJ is a very competitive state and gets alot of applicants and appointees).

    http://www.usna.com/page.aspx?pid=251
     
  14. Zmansmom

    Zmansmom Mom, forum stalker

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    Ds was wait listed last year in April and eventually denied in May. He took it better than me. My heart was broken for him. He knew from the beginning that he wanted to reapply. I know that there are differing views on this forum concerning prep school but that is the route we went even though he was 3Q. He was accepted to a couple of civilian colleges but said not of them felt 'right' because he wanted to be in the more military setting than a 'regular' school. The school ds went to was awesome in the reapplication process because they know that is what he was there for. He took calc 1, chem 1, physics 1, English 1, military science, and PT. Made all A's first semester. On track for all A's second. PM me if you want more info.
     
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    Two years ago, DD received the TWE. She went to a local 4 year college, UMBC, and took Plebe-like courses. I know she had Chemistry with lab, and Linear Algebra. She did not take Calculus since she made a 5 on the AP Calculus test, and so was eligible to skip ahead. She also had English, French and Python programming. She may have had one other class I can't recall at the moment. She played club rugby, which caused me some knuckle biting after she received her appointment.:rolleyes:

    She needed recommendations from her math and English teachers again. She was able to use her high school senior teacher in English, since her college class was the mass instruction a lot of freshman English classes are. I don't remember if she used her high school or college math teacher. Her high school gym teacher readministered the CFA. She did not retake the SATs, although she had thought about it, but the timing didn't work out. She had her college send her first semester grades to the Academy.

    Her MOCs were pleased to see her again, and she received her nomination. She received an LOA in early February, contingent on an updated DODMERB form. The updated form is just "Have you had any medical issues since last year". She was out of the country most of January, so updated her form in late January. She had had her wisdom teeth removed, but that raised no questions from DODMERB, and she went from "contingent on..." to full Appointment.

    Her college Chemistry was stringent enough that she validated the first semester of USNA Chemistry, and she validated Calculus well enough to start with Calc III. So a college year isn't necessarily "wasted". I think the college year helped her. She learned to live with a total stranger, and deal with distractions (with no Mom around to nag).

    I hope this helps.
     
  16. anne99

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    Yes, CatChaser, that helps tremendously!

    Any more reapplicant stories out there? Very curious what leadership roles were found.
     
  17. NavyHoops

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    Remember leadership roles aren't necessarily titles like VP of some club. Plenty of leadership opportunities volunteering to lead things within a club, set up and lead events in the community, school or with youth.
     
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    Something else to remember is that it is exactly the same application with the same questions. So if you had a stellar high school record, it is all included again! Most all of the activities you check off or write about will be from high school. The icing on the cake is just adding your college opportunities/experiences and new transcript. That's what you will talk about in the essay too. DS got to use his Sr. English teacher for a rec, but had to use his Calculus teacher from college. The nomination process still took all the paperwork, but it was easier this time because he knew what to do.
     
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  19. F15DOC

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    Great discussion, definitely following this thread...
     
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    I agree. Applicant should be able to clearly describe what they actually did/accomplished in whatever roles their were in. For example in some h.s., Student Government is nothing but a popularity contest and once elected you really don't do anything, while in other schools you actually accomplish/lead things of substance. Simply saying your were 'class president' without being able to describe accomplishments adds very little to your resume. SA's know this so they look beyond labels. That is part of the reason suggesting candidates do this/that may be misleading when you really don't know the school and if that activity really adds value from a leadership perspective.
     
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