Submitting Apps Early Question

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  1. Neoseeker99

    Neoseeker99 Member

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    Does it serve you any advantage to turn in MOC applications, or any nomination applications, early? Does it make any significant difference?
     
  2. Pima

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    No. The MOC will not give out noms on a rolling basis. If they state that the close off Date is XXXX than they will start reviewing all of the applicants at that time. The slate is given out at one time. It is just important to have it there on time, and make sure you do a follow up phone call that they have the information required.
     
  3. USMAalltheway

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    Pima,

    So say if the deadline for an application is October 1, then there's no advantage on sending the application early? Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks.

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  4. Academy_Questions

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    that is true about reviewing the apps. but at least with my Congressman and Senators, they have reccomendended getting your nom apps in as early as possible because it shows a higher level of commitment - which they will take into consideration. but that is for california. i would reccomend emailing your MOC
     
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    OK. Thanks for the note. Didn't even know that about noms.

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  6. America's Finest

    America's Finest USMA Cadet

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    All MOC are different. Some will give you credit for completing it early, some won't.

    It's better to do it early just in case yours does give points for it.
     
  7. usnahopeful

    usnahopeful USNA Midshipman

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    Definitely if you live in CA turn everything in ASAP!
     
  8. USMAalltheway

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    America's Finest,

    What would you consider early? For example, if I turned an application 3 months before the deadline-would that be early?

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  9. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    In our area, getting them in early is of no benefit other than it's another think off your "to do" list. However, do NOT miss the deadline. For most MOCs, it's an easy and automatic disqualification.
     
  10. USMAalltheway

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    OK, thanks. I definitely won't miss the deadline. I'm sending my apps wednesday, about 3 months from the deadline. Definitely a big thing off my ''to do" list.:biggrin:

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  11. Pima

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    In NC it does not matter. DS had his in about 1 month prior for all MOCs and he got all MOCs noms.

    The key is to remember they have somebody in their office that works directly with the nom process. Call the office(in NC it is the in state office ---not DC) and ask them directly does it matter. State to them I have heard that early apps get preference since it shows their dedication. They will be honest and precise. We can only give our own MOC experience.

    Do not have the folks call because it does look better that you are taking control and that it is not the folks being the driving force. This will always be concern that the child is doing ths because of Mom and Dad. If the folks call make sure they state a valid reason, that can be verified through your app. i.e., you are a lifeguard that works 9-6 M-F, Football camp, volunteering somewhere away from the home for the summer. That job/camp/volunteerism will show up in your resume, and they get it. However, what I would suggest is if this is the scenario, the folks call and find the direct extension or email, have them give the background questions. Then let the folks pass it to you and you call the moc nom rep leaving your cell phone no on their voice mail for any follow up questions.
     
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  12. 2011's Mom

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    My two cents worth: Another thing to think about is that MOCs typically have a nominating committee that makes recommendations for nomination to the MOC. The committee will likely know the date you got your documents turned in because they will be date stamped by the MOC staff. In our area the committee is observant of the date stamps as a measure of degree of interest by the applicant. Also, the due date is the last date that you can turn in a MOC app. Technically, a minute late is a disqualification. The due date is published MONTHS ahead of time. There is no excuse for a last minute application - committees know that students had months to complete the app. I have personally heard committee members comment on "potential procrastination or organizational issues" for last minute apps. Our committee typically has 12-18 SA grad members. Probably the most common concern/area of discussion is trying to determine, based on the submitted docs alone, if the student has both the educational foundation PLUS the necessary skills (study, prioritization, self motivation) to succeed at a SA (and graduate from!). While they don't discount someone for a late app, two equal applicants will likely result in the last minute app getting more scrutiny than the obviously motivated early applicant.
     

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