Submitting SAT/ACT Scores

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  1. WakaFlockaAlan

    WakaFlockaAlan Member

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    Is there a point to submitting SAT/ACT scores to the USNA and USMA if you have not been nominated yet? Or even broader, is there a point to even filling out your application if you havent been nominated yet? You cant be accepted without a nomination so wouldnt you just have wasted the money sending your scores and the time filling out the application if you dont end up getting nominated?
     
  2. Teragram

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    Seriously? Have you done any research into what goes into being appointed to these academies? You wait to get nominated to start the process and you will find yourself way behind the curve...competitive candidates started this process at minimum months ago!
     
  3. mmb5

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    Unless your parent is a congressional rep, you have to work on the application process to get the nomination. Many of the nomination sources require that you have opened and completed or nearly completed an application. And in some districts, the Congressional offices work with the admissions office to figure out, based on applications, who to award nominations to.

    Please look at your representative's requirements for obtaining a nomination.
     
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  4. WakaFlockaAlan

    WakaFlockaAlan Member

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    None of my senators/rep websites say I have to have it open. I have most of it done, but I was just wondering what the point was. Everyone on the forum is very anal about getting it done ASAP and figuring yall have way more experience than I do, I listened. But I was just wondering if there was a point other than giving yourself less pressure once you have been nominated. I guess I was basically asking if anyone knows for sure whether the offices work with admissions or if people just speculated and assumed so. The deadline isnt until January 31st. What would be the point of having a deadline if it was basically ignored. Im just asking here... People are getting pretty heated...
     
  5. NavyHoops

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    You should apply ASAP. Why? If I had a kid walk into their MOC interview and say they haven't finished applying because they want to see if they get a Nom first, I would look at that extremely negatively. MOCs have until Jan 31 to submit their slates. So what happens if you don't hear until then? Or even a few days before? More Noms are given then those appointed, so chances are good of getting a Nom somewhere. Chances obviously can vary greatly in competitive areas. There is also the national pool and VP Nom. So if you wait to submit your stuff and you get a Nom Dec 15th. You then apply. What if your BGO says, sorry, I won't be back until Jan 3, family vacation? What if you roll your ankle and still have a CFA to go? USNA is rolling admissions in theory. Earlier is better to get your stuff reviewed and knocked out. Dodmerb only gets submitted after completing a certain percentage of your application. What if you have remedials? Don't stack up more work to do and put things at risk. Are you applying to multiple SAs? Most of this work is redundant and some of it is common. Are you applying for ROTC? Again, a lot of redundant items that can be reused.
     
  6. mpete2150

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    I think some of the "heated" responses are more just frustrated with how casual you're sounding. There are dozens of threads on this topic and I'm pretty sure even the USNA site suggests running the two processes in parallel since they're so lengthy. Technically, the deadline isn't until Jan 31st but in reality, it is a rolling admissions process and if early gets you a benefit, why purposely delay? This is usually a dream of people, not just another school so minutia are closely analyzed.
     
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    And for an OUTGOING MOC like this year there will be many, the rules state they have to have theirs done by Dec 31.
     
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  8. jl123

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    I think we have a troll stirring the pot. Similar question posted on USMA forum and then more posts by OP disagreeing with respondents. Could have completed the app in the time spent arguing.
     
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  9. Just Dad

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    Waka,
    Understand that for most of the people on this board appointment to the USNA has been, or was, a life long goal. They have worked really really hard toward an apoointment, some are following in family traditions into carrers in the Navy. The stakes are very high for these folks and the odds are long, (no matter how great they are[or their kid is]). Your post appears to take all this lightly. Not saying you are, I'm saying it looks that way.

    In direct response to your question; not being from a Navy family, and uncertain about a 5yr service commitment my USNA CL2020 DD didn't submit her application until two days before the dead line. According to the Admiral (Ret) that headed up our state's Navy Nomination Board she was their #1 nomination. Now, when she went into her interview she had already been to the USNA on an "Official" recuriting visit. Maybe that made a difference in how they viewed her interest level.

    Good luck to you.

    BTW: Amoung the many lessons my wife has taught me over the last 30 years is never to tell a diligent, highly engaged and deeply invested person that they are being "Anal"................ May you benefit from my sufferings.
     
  10. WakaFlockaAlan

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    I appreciate the words Just Dad. I (obviously) do not come from a military family and was honestly quite shocked by some of the people on the forum. What seemed to me as an innocent, logical question has been disregarded as trolling. I honestly am not trolling. I am interested in the USNA and USMA, so I obviously would post in both forums. Thank you for your answer, which seems to show that there might not be any consequence for a "late" application. Obviously, I understand that 2 days before the deadline probably isnt advisable, but I was just asking an honest question. I will take the lesson you learned from your wife and will take it to heart— I dont want to receive any more "abuse" lol.
     
  11. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    To the OP,
    I think what is causing you some headaches here is that most military folks are pretty detail oriented and also highly competitive. As such, they tend to champion the concept of getting things done sooner rather than later. Your original question positions you, right or wrong, as someone who is seeking the "easier" solution. That rubs people on the forum the wrong way.

    This is not meant to berate you in any way. I'm just making an observation. The feedback you have received are from some of the most highly regarded members of the forum.

    Good luck to you!
     

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