summer seminar cfa

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  1. 2ndgenerationusaf

    2ndgenerationusaf New Member

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    My DS is going to USAFA summer seminar this June, and will take the CFA while there. My DS is a cross country runner and his pull ups and push ups are not as high as they could be. On the USAFA web site it says 12 pull ups and 67 pushups for males to pass the CFA. Is this written in stone? Can he opt out of the CFA at SS. Does anyone out there know of a good exercise regimen that could help him with his upper body ?
     
  2. BlahuKahuna

    BlahuKahuna Member

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    It's diagnostic-those scores aren't kept anywhere after SS, just a chance for the candidates to get used to the test.
     
  3. baileydb

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    Also, they give AVERAGE scores on the USAFA website. You can get below the average and still get in (I did) but of course he should try to shoot for the max if possible :)
     
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  4. Patriot2119

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    You're not gonna like this, but in my opinion the best way to get good scores on pushups/pull-ups is to do them. I put a pull-up bar up and just did them a few times a day and within a month I went from 7 to 14. Your DS has plenty of time before he will have to take the CFA so go ahead and start now.

    The CFA at summer seminar is just so candidates can get a feel for it. As far as I'm aware even if you want to keep the scores you can't due to being at a higher altitude and having others there to pace/push you along with other reasons I'm sure.
     
  5. RogersCO'19

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    As bailey said, the only supply the Max and the Average scores that have been scored on the CFA. I feel the reason they don't provide the minimum is so people don't shoot for minimum but that's just speculation. I started not being able to do 10 push ups and now I can do 40+ in my two minutes. What I did was just doing them everyday and lifting weights. The pull ups are a challenge but same concept. Just keep trying and encourage your DS to simply do his best and work his hardest.
     
  6. SDMom2019

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    He should be able to meet those averages and look good at the summer seminar if he starts working toward it now. He has two months or so.

    For what it's worth, I've posted quotes below of my recommendations for improving on the pull-ups and push-ups from some other threads. Granted, I am a woman, and I was just giving encouragement and guidance to some young ladies, but I think the general idea would help a young man who needs to improve his upper body strength.

    I honestly think just doing the push-ups and pull-ups with good form until failure, then doing modified versions after failure is the best way to improve your reps in the shortest amount of time. Your DS probably won't take my advice, my own son didn't. Boys seem to like to have a plan to get there that involves using weights and machines in the gym. My son was able to improve his reps with his weight room plan, but he would have improved a lot faster (in my opinion) if he would have simply practiced the push-ups and pull-ups. It's probably not as exciting to just practice the simple exercise as to do the "lat. pull-downs," etc.... Realistically, a person could crank out a few sets of push-ups and pull-ups at home in the amount of time it would take to just travel to the gym and back.

     
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  7. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Those are NOT "pass/fail" scores...those are more of a "high average."

    "Once upon a time" USAFA used to post the minimum, mean, and maximum scores...they don't do that anymore. The goal should be the highest score a candidate can achieve...focus on the numbers USAFA posts and forget the rest.

    Steve
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  8. USAFA2019HopefulMom

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    As stated abive, SS was a dry run of the CFA, not official. Also...just FYI...for girls the pull-ups are all about muscle memory. Our daughter could knock out push ups with no problem at all but was struggling with pull ups. She went from struggling with 2 to being able to do 6-7 for CFA. We put a pull up bar in her doorway and she would do them every time she walked in or out. Once she got the muscle memory down she was able to increase quantity.
     
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