test scores in CIS?

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  1. Prep

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    None of my official test scores are listed on my CIS. I had them all sent directly from the ACT organization. I sent them well over a month ago. Does anyone have theirs listed? I am trying to decide if I should email admissions or give them more time. If no one else has theirs listed I know its just an input delay Versus a problem with the score reporting.
     
  2. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    You need to give Admissions up to a two month window. From what I understand SAT/ACT sends the scores on a monthly basis (maybe it is more frequent, like twice a month) and then it takes time for them to input it. If you requested the scores to be sent after the the testing service sent their monthly report, you might be delayed a month in just the testing service reporting it to USNA and then Admissions has to process it. Given that it is the summer time, you should wait. If you don't see them in the system by early July (wait a few days for plebe summer to settle in), I would shoot Admissions an email.
     
  3. LakeErie69

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    My ACT scores from January aren't there
     
  4. omroks

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    Guys, I've used the CIS link listed previously, but it keeps telling me that there are no records available for me... i have a candidate number and everything. What should I do??
     
  5. Run5K

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    Missing ACT Scores

    The CIS does not reflect my excellent ACT scores from December of 2011, even though the ACT system confirms they were sent. This also means my NASS application was missing very positive information. Lesson Learned: trust no one but yourself. Follow up with every piece of documentation.
     
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    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    NASS applications are based on self-reported scores, not official ones. However, it is important you verify your scores for the Admissions process....there is plenty of time to do this in the summer.
     
  7. Run5K

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    Self-Reported vs Actual Test Scores

    I'd like to express my continued disbelief that the USNA Admissions department would accept self-reported SAT and ACT test scores for NASS admissions, when actual test scores were submitted to the Academy for consideration. Not to compare self-reported test scores to actual test scores misses out on a golden opportunity to weed out future honor code train wrecks.

    "I only got scored a 24 ACT composite, but I'll self-report a 35. I want to go to NASS real bad, and I know the USNA doesn't check."

    One case of missing ACT test data is an accident. Multiple cases of missing ACT test data is a disturbing trend, and a symptom of gross inefficiency that simply must be corrected. "USNA Admissions" and "Inattention to Detail" should never appear in the same sentence.

    I'd also like to share my observation that the NROTC Scholarship application process appears to be far more efficient and accurate than the USNA application process. I took the ACT in September of 2011, and recieved a written confirmation from the testing organization that my scores were sent to the NROTC, the USNA, my MOCs and all my preferred schools. In January of 2012, I took the SAT, and recieved identical transmittal confirmations.

    As soon as the NROTC scholarship was open, I logged on to find my SAT and ACT test scores accurately recored. After logging on to the USNA application site, using an emailed candidate number, username and password (since my letter with an incorrect candidate number never arrived), I find that only my SAT scores have been prerecorded.

    Not to use actual test scores, when such test scores are available, is to admit a willingness to make important decisions (NASS admission) based on incomplete or inaccurate information. That is unforgiveable.
     
  8. Vista123

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    Run5k,
    You have a lot of quotes. Can you source them?
     
  9. Prep

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    If I lived in Ocala Florida I would seriously encourage you to take your concerns up with the admission board ;)
     
  10. Rojo17

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    Run5K, you seem to have a lot of posts that show that you only think one way. I'm not trying to start a fight here, but the biggest thing that they preach at NASS is teamwork and unity; only seeing things one way won't help that.

    On another note, you tripped yourself up. You said something along the lines of that this is a prime opportunity to "weed out potential honor code wrecks" in the future. If someone reports a 35 for NASS but has a 24 in actuality, all USNA needs to do is wait for the actual score submission from ACT/SAT to arrive and that will decide the matter quickly.

    And concerning your discontinued belief? Get over it because it's true. :thumb:
     
  11. Rojo17

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    Oorah to that!
     
  12. nuensis

    nuensis USNA 2016

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    I don't know if you've noticed yet, perhaps USNA is the only school that you've applied to thus far, but self-reporting for SAT/ACT scores is on almost every college admissions application for civilian colleges as well as the preliminary applications for the service academies. Some universities, like the Cal State system here in California, even make a full-blown admissions decision based on self-reported grades and test scores. Why? Because in this cruel, cruel world of cheaters and swindlers, some folks still believe in old-fashioned things like trust and integrity. The university admissions boards don't really fancy the idea of waiting around for the testing agencies to mail scores when they can just ask and trust in the integrity of people.

    In every case, an official score report must be sent to the institution before enrollment can be done. In the end there is always verification, and if things don't match up, it's not hard to delete an applicant's entire file immediately.
     
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    @Run5K: First, the decision to allow someone to attend NASS is not a "critical admissions decision." NASS is a recruiting tool. While some people who attend NASS do end up in the following class at USNA, many of their classmates will not have attended NASS.

    Second, having honor and integrity is assumed in those who apply to USNA, and to members of the Brigade, until they show that trust is not warranted. As a previous poster mentioned, if self-reported scores don't match actuals, it will be detected during the real admissions process. The delete key works well as a remedy.

    Third, since the application process at USNA is obviously substandard, I suggest that you write a report to the Superintendent, detailing its deficiencies. Be sure to include all of your recommendations for improvements, as you clearly are in a better position to make such suggestions than anyone else. :rolleyes:

    Finally, in previous threads you have been advised that your posts appear to show an attitude that will not sit well with senior Midshipmen or potential classmates. I repeat that advice here.
     
  14. 2Steaktacos

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    @Run5K: it may have been a good opportunity for you in the end that you didnt get to go to NASS. Your not going may work to your advantage.
     
  15. MMMom

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    DS has SAT scores for both sittings showing in the CIS, but not his ACT scores. Sounds like ACT may take a little longer to report, so think he will wait until later in the summer to follow up with admissions to make sure they get reported.
     
  16. Prep

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    anyone's act scores on CIS yet?

    anyone's act scores on CIS yet?
     
  17. Rojo17

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    Nope
     
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    Multiple missing ACT Scores

    We now have ample evidece to suggest ACT scores are NOT being posted in a timely manner on CIS. And yes, I had the stones to bring this to the attention of admissions. My observation and concern has nothing to do with being a team player, which I am. It has everything to do with correcting an obvious deficiency.

    Don't shoot the messengers. Fix the problem.
     
  20. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    Run5K,

    What was the outcome?

    I personally would have waited until the Monday after Induction Day, as NASS, STEM, and finalizing the Plebe class are a higher priority. There is no hurry to have them posted at this time, as the Admissions Board doesn't convene for another 2.5 months, plenty of time to fix any issues.
     

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