The Reapplying Club

Yah lol This will be my fourth time applying I was wait listed this year unfortunately :( Have done NWP and am now going to be a sophomore, AS 200 at Embry-Riddle Daytona. I really still have the desire to go and i'm giving it one more shot!! Field training is also a great way to go!! I would encourage everyone of you, if you don't get in the Academy join ROTC and do well there. you will still end up where all the Academy kids are going. Always have a plan B especially if your sole desire is to be an officer in the AIR FORCE!!
 
frisbforce,

I am not sure what you mean by Field Training, are you speaking of SFT that ROTC does? If so, it really is not up to you or any cadet to volunteer. It is a selection board that occurs in the spring of C200, it is not a 100% guarantee. LY they selected @50% to attend. The avg gpa was @ 3.2. If you do not get it, you do not make POC and that means not only is your scholarship in jeopardy, but commissioning is too. This is where you usually AFROTC cadets bail over to AROTC.

I just wanted that clarified for posters who are re-applying for AFA and have AFROTC as their current path.

P.S. The only way you maintain that scholarship if you do not get selected is to have det. command waive you. This is why you will see C200's pinging in the beginning of spring semester. It is not only about commissioning, but for many it is the only way to pay to attend that college.

In this economy and with the AF cutting size those waivers are not guaranteed anymore.

You will also compete again the following yr to attend, however, remember these boards are held by AD officers, they follow the AF. Rule of thumb getting promoted above zone is a long shot, because they already decided ly you were not the top 50%. Now if next yrs board has higher rates i.e. 65% the odds increase, lower rate like they had between 10 and 11, and the odds decrease.

Good luck either way.

I also believe that if the SA education and training is what you want keep trying until the fat lady sings.

The only thing to realize is that if you want to be a pilot and you enter at 22 11 months, you will be pushing that age limit for UPT(or maybe they changed it...it use to be 27 1/2), and then you might also be pushing age limits for things like WIC and TPS...not sure if they have age limits. I know they have mins for flight hours, but I don't know about age.

Sometimes, you should also not have tunnel vision and get stuck on only one path. For some it works out, for others it doesn't mainly IMPO because of age. It is hard to be in school non-stop until you are 26 and 11 months working on one degree, than add 2 yrs for UPT before you become operational. You start to see things differently when you @29 compared to the 24 yo. No offense 24 yo's I would probably have said that is not true, but when I became 29, I did see the picture differently. Plus, you will need a Masters for promotion later on, so now you have more education involved, and that doesn't include PME, SOS, ACSC, AWC. You never stop with education in the AF if you want to be promoted. OBTW your 2 yrs of becoming operational will make college look like a walk in the park because now you will be flying and doing their academics. In the end tests (academic) will be going until you are 29.

The AF is not a sprint it is a marathon, and you need to pace yourself as if you are in a marathon. If you pace yourself as if you are in an 8K, you won't make it to the end since you burnt yourself out for that fastest 8K time.
 
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Pima, I said field training just cause it's the next thing in line for me. But what you said was right on and that it is still very competitive to get that slot and there are no guarantees for me. but, i'm not going to quit!! like u said it's a marathon!! Also, with the Academy I realize it's probably going to be about the same chances that I had last year with getting in and I realize that's not much, but I don't want to look back and say I didn't try, you know? and with the year age thing I talked to my liaison officer about it and we realized I would be hitting the age benchmark for pilot training. I don't know about the other ones though. But, I really appreciate the insight and everything you said was right on!! Thank you.
 
Update on reapplying

Hi everyone,

I was very active last year on reading the forum and early on in this thread. Just wanted to let you know my son decided not to reapply this year to the USAFA. He was crushed when he received the QNV letter, but rebounded and is now studying engineering at a large university and is extremely happy.

As a mom, I will pop in here now and then to encourage and support those reapplying as I totally believe in following your dreams.

All the best!
 
Thanks for checking in TWA! DS is negotiating the application process again and should be just about wrapped up and waiting by the mailbox by the beginning of October. Best of luck to yours!
-ERF
 
Evilleramsfan, good luck to your son!! Our ALO from last year said 2nd time appliers (freshmen in college) have better luck 2nd time around, and that about 30% of class is made up of 2x appliers. So I will be thinking of your family around October. Keep us posted.
 
Well...

DS has made the decision that he is enjoying ROTC so much that he will forgo reapplying to the academy. He is doing great in his mechanical engineering prep classes. He scored a 98.8 on his physical fitness test (he is a bit miffed over it and is working to ace it next year) and got the highest 100 score in his detachment. The important thing, however, is that he is making some good friends and really feels at home with the detachment. He did get a tuition waiver which not only pays for all his tuition for the year, but also his next 2 highest fees. They are also going to keep him in the loop for any scholarships that happen to make it through the pipeline.

I will at least remain as a lurker and will fill you in on progress as time permits. Thanks to all who have been such help with the process and also to those who have been supportive along the way!
 
Glad to hear your son is doing so well. There are many routes to commissioning and it sounds as if your son has found one that fits him well.
 
Hello, I know it has been a long time since people have been on this thread, but I was curious, I am at BYU provo and as a reapplicant, heard the USAFA admissions boards will not consider reapplicants until the January admissions boards. Does anyone know if this true? I got the QNV letter last year, but the officials said I look strong right now. Any light on the subject would be greatly appreciated. I already checked with my ALO.
 
Just an update

DS did ace his physical this semester and is doing great in his classes. He was offered a 3 year scholarship through the detachment and is waiting for the paperwork to go through. The scholarship also includes a monthly living expense allowance. The big question I have is as follows: He was offered the scholarship, but was told if he was not selected for field training between his sophomore and junior years, the Air Force ROTC reserves the right to be reimbursed for the scholarship and living allowance. He is going ahead and taking a chance on it, but I was wondering if this is normal policy or is it to cover themselves in case someone really messes up and gets drummed out....
 
Yes,

They will require the money back or they may require him to serve it out as an enlisted member.

Not to divert the thread further, but if you go over to the ROTC forum, there are quite a few this yr that were told you will serve if you don't pay the money back.
 
Tailwind Angel said:
Hi everyone,

I was very active last year on reading the forum and early on in this thread. Just wanted to let you know my son decided not to reapply this year to the USAFA. He was crushed when he received the QNV letter, but rebounded and is now studying engineering at a large university and is extremely happy.

As a mom, I will pop in here now and then to encourage and support those reapplying as I totally believe in following your dreams.

All the best!
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I was wondering if you have been popping in or not! I was wondering if your son was reapplying or not. If he has any questions about the ROTC route please just ask and we will fill you in on what we learned. Oddly, my son just received his pilot slot through ROTC even though DOD merb said he wasn't pilot qualified when he applied to USAFA. (still scratching my head on that one) His eyesight was a slight correction which his ROTC unit said it did not need surgery to meet the board, he was well within standards. I hope your son is doing well! Well, I am off to get ready for the packers for yet another move.:thumb:
 
Just wanted to report in and keep this thread going. Today I heard from USAFA and found out I received an appointment!! I am beyond excited and I am so happy this day finally came! I've been in NROTC in the mean time and have been loving every minute of it so far. I now have a tough decision in front of me. Good luck to all other re-applicants out there still waiting to hear!!
 
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