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Are you responding to what the Article and Northcom Commander said or your own prejudices about the DoD? Let's go back and see what the article says:
The reality is that the Dod is the largest standing possessor of logistics, engineering and manpower assets in the world so unless you are arguing that the country, history and the need be damned- disaster relief will only be performed by Homeland Security because it's their turf, there must be an established framework for providing and controlling forces to civil disaster relief efforts. I don't believe that I have ever heard anyone argue that an adhoc headquarters with an adhoc commander performs faster and with more efficiency than an established organization.
Adm Allen was the Federal coordinator after FEMA fell down on the job, but one hardly thinks that he would argue that the utilization of DoD assets was more efficient with no controlling headquarters leaving Federal and state military forces initially reporting to separate commands. Similarly- I've yet to read an argument from anyone there that Katrina would have been resolved faster and with less loss of life and property if only the AD military had not provided forces to the effort.
Your argument is totally at odds with the proposal- it seems about everything except what they have proposed. You've raised the spector of Posse Comitatus- which is not the issue here. You've argued that Active Duty assets should not be used in disaster response although historically and in virtually every major disaster they have been utilized. You've argued that the National Guard wasn't prepared, trained or empowered to swiftly take command of a military response effort which includes AD forces- which is of course the shortfall that the Northcom Commander is attempting to rectify by training NG officers to assume command of Active Duty forces supporting a disaster relief effort. Subsequently, you've argued that AD officers are not primarily concerned with dealing with the civilian infrastructure- which is exactly what the NorthCom commander is saying. I can't see that your argument would find many allies in Homeland Security, The USCG, or the various State TAGs. As far as it being a bid for more money? How do you figure that? This doesn't add forces, force structure or even billets- it trains existing NG Officers and predesignates them for contingency assignments. In the words of Shakespeare: this is "much ado about nothing".
PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colo. -- The Defense Department is grooming a new type of commander to coordinate the military response to domestic disasters, hoping to save lives by avoiding some of the chaos that plagued the Hurricane Katrina rescue effort.
The officers, called dual-status commanders, would be able to lead both active-duty and National Guard troops -- a power that requires special training and authority because of legal restrictions on the use of the armed forces on U.S. soil.
No one commander had that authority in the aftermath of Katrina, and military and civilian experts say the lack of coordination contributed to the nightmarish delays, duplications and gaps in the huge rescue effort....
...An unprecedented 70,000 military personnel poured into the region to help, but active-duty and Guard troops often didn't know what the other was doing, according to William Banks, a professor at the Syracuse University law school who studied the response....
....A dual-status commander would straddle that divide. With the approval of both state and federal officials, he or she would get temporary authority to command both types of troops and report up both chains of command.
The U.S. Northern Command, with headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base, Colo., began training dual-status commanders last year. Northern Command was created after the 2001 terrorist attacks to defend the U.S. homeland and help civilian authorities handle domestic crises such as Katrina.
The goal is to have at least one officer in each of the 50 states and in four U.S. territories qualified and ready to be a dual-status commander on a moment's notice, said Adm. James Winnefeld, commander of Northern Command.
"So if you have a sudden emergency, earthquake, hurricane, you name it, we want to be able to have a National Guard of able to command federal forces," Winnefeld said in interview earlier this year.
..."There's always been, I would say, a gentlemanly disagreement between the states and the federal government, at least for the last decade probably, on who would actually have the responsibility for commanding federal forces responding to a disaster in a state," he said.
Winnefeld believes in nearly every case the National Guard should be in charge.
"We believe that the right person 99 percent of the time to command the entire military response inside a state is a National Guard officer who is from that state, is appointed by the governor and understands that state and has been trained by the federal side to understand the federal side of this kind of response better than almost any federal officer would," Winnefeld said
The reality is that the Dod is the largest standing possessor of logistics, engineering and manpower assets in the world so unless you are arguing that the country, history and the need be damned- disaster relief will only be performed by Homeland Security because it's their turf, there must be an established framework for providing and controlling forces to civil disaster relief efforts. I don't believe that I have ever heard anyone argue that an adhoc headquarters with an adhoc commander performs faster and with more efficiency than an established organization.
Adm Allen was the Federal coordinator after FEMA fell down on the job, but one hardly thinks that he would argue that the utilization of DoD assets was more efficient with no controlling headquarters leaving Federal and state military forces initially reporting to separate commands. Similarly- I've yet to read an argument from anyone there that Katrina would have been resolved faster and with less loss of life and property if only the AD military had not provided forces to the effort.
Your argument is totally at odds with the proposal- it seems about everything except what they have proposed. You've raised the spector of Posse Comitatus- which is not the issue here. You've argued that Active Duty assets should not be used in disaster response although historically and in virtually every major disaster they have been utilized. You've argued that the National Guard wasn't prepared, trained or empowered to swiftly take command of a military response effort which includes AD forces- which is of course the shortfall that the Northcom Commander is attempting to rectify by training NG officers to assume command of Active Duty forces supporting a disaster relief effort. Subsequently, you've argued that AD officers are not primarily concerned with dealing with the civilian infrastructure- which is exactly what the NorthCom commander is saying. I can't see that your argument would find many allies in Homeland Security, The USCG, or the various State TAGs. As far as it being a bid for more money? How do you figure that? This doesn't add forces, force structure or even billets- it trains existing NG Officers and predesignates them for contingency assignments. In the words of Shakespeare: this is "much ado about nothing".