Threats To Military Families

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TONE IT DOWN.
Let's keep our opinions of each other a little more to ourselves. Argue about ideas not the messenger.


The risk of being attacked by IS in the US due to DoD affiliation is somewhere less than the risk of being assaulted by a former music star's body guard. It could happen, but do you really think that is your biggest concern? :rolleyes:

Ebola is a nasty thing, but it isn't some magical death ray. We know how it spreads. It doesn't live forever. More Americans will likely die this year by falling off ladders than by Ebola.
 
raimius said:
TONE IT DOWN.
Let's keep our opinions of each other a little more to ourselves. Argue about ideas not the messenger.


The risk of being attacked by IS in the US due to DoD affiliation is somewhere less than the risk of being assaulted by a former music star's body guard. It could happen, but do you really think that is your biggest concern? :rolleyes:

Ebola is a nasty thing, but it isn't some magical death ray. We know how it spreads. It doesn't live forever. More Americans will likely die this year by falling off ladders than by Ebola.
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Thank you Raimius.
Folks- It seems apparent that the ability to comment on opposing opinions without personally insulting the holder of that opposing opinion is a vanishing skill. Reclaim that skill please or depart. There is no cause or justification for insulting,slandering or personally labeling the other person with names etc... etc... And- more to the point- it won't be tolerated. So keep this in check while you rationally discuss this subject.
 
A couple of simple questions...

Yes, the odds against getting struck by lightning are slim. But I'm not sure I would tell my kids to run outside and grab hold of a radio tower during a thunderstorm. Would you?

Yes, the odds against getting killed on your commute are slim. But I'm not sure I would encourage my wife to drive while texting during morning rush hour. Would you?

And Yes, the odds against harm coming to military families due to their social media profiles are slim. But (just as in the examples cited elsewhere in this thread) I'm not sure I would raise my families chances by simple actions/or lack of thereof. Would you?

If you answer "yes" to any of the above, then fine. That's your right and you probably believe no one has a right to judge you for those choices... ... ... So why judge other people for theirs?



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EDIT: Just so this post doesn't come off as too preachy... I will state for the record that there are in fact days when I might consider telling my wife to text during rush hour traffic. -smirk-
 
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hornetguy;388330[B said:
And US infections of Ebola don't spread in country among the normal population. When you aren't drinking water from a river or living with first world sanitation, Ebola doesn't spread. More fear mongering. Not losing any sleep and I live right on the border![/B]
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I'd like to know where this fact came from? I thought the CDC said this is spread through direct contact with someone infected. Perhaps that is how it started but not how it is spread. If you are certain this is a fact I challenge you to go hug the next confirmed Ebola patient....

Just don't drink any of their infected water! :biggrin:
 
Rocko said:
I'd like to know where this fact came from? I thought the CDC said this is spread through direct contact with someone infected. Perhaps that is how it started but not how it is spread. If you are certain this is a fact I challenge you to go hug the next confirmed Ebola patient....

Just don't drink any of their infected water! :biggrin:
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Oh I didn't mean those were infection routes, just proxies for the level of healthcare/public health in the country. I certainly did not word that as I intended. Bull hit it on the dot.
 
hornetguy said:
Oh I didn't mean those were infection routes, just proxies for the level of healthcare/public health in the country. I certainly did not word that as I intended. Bull hit it on the dot.
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I agree with Bull's assessment as well. While it is not anything to panic over, it certainly should be something we are concerned about. If we waive it off as if it is not a big deal, people could become complacent and that is exactly how it could spread in this country.

I prefer with something that is "potentially" as deadly as Ebola that they error on the side of caution.

The sad part of the matter is like everything else these days our wonderful politicians like to try to spin things to fit their agendas (That is Republicans as well as Democrats). :rolleyes:
 
-Bull- said:
-We have, and currently do, face worse diseases than Ebola.
-Ebola was transmitted from wild animals to humans, in fact, fruit bats are natural ebola hosts. Humans first contracted ebola from close contact with the fluids of infected animals (and it isn't just pigs and monkeys). It originated with animals in the rain forests of central Africa.
-You can only contract the virus through direct contact with an infect person's (or animal) bodily fluids or a surface that contains those fluids.
-Yes, it does have an incubation period of 2-21 days. However, you are only contagious once you begin experiencing symptoms.

As long as you do not plan on messing around with ebola infected fluids, you will be fine. The countries in west Africa that are experiencing the outbreak lack decent healthcare, are still recovering from conflict, and many people there are simply not educated on how to prevent the spread of these diseases.

I spent a few months in Africa this summer in a country that borders where the disease originated and ebola dominated the news there. From everything we saw, the disease wasn't spreading because it was simply so bad, but instead because people weren't taking necessary precautions from infected people. A family would have a kid or two become infected with the disease and instead of having the kids isolated and given medical care, they would prefer that the family stay together and the kids pass at home. Then when they go to bury them, everyone else becomes infected from handling the body if they hadn't become infected already.

Couple that with sanitation practically being non-existent and no access to quality medical care, it spreads. Hell, people were raiding hospitals taking their family members back home because they only knew that their family member got sick, went to a hospital, and they never saw them again.

Yea, it's a nasty disease. But you currently face higher risks from driving down the highway.

*Those facts came directly from the WHO
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I agree with most of your post. I have been following the news regarding the health care issues, panic, superstition, etc. in the effected African countries.

According to Dr. Friedman, AIDS is the closest disease we have delt with. Aids is not as easily transmissible as Ebola. Though the good thing is we know far more about Ebola than we did about AIDs when it first appeared in this country.

We know the origin of ebola is animal. However, we do not know where this mutation/variation originated. Did it mutate in animal and then jump to a human or was it in a human? Every virus mutates. It is why some can jump from animal to human and back. And we don't know when and if a virus is capable of mutation.

It's tragic that this virus has had such a devestating impact. We are lucky the US is advanced in sanitation, education, etc.. However, we still must be vigiliant, and take actions to prevent this disease from running amuck in this country. This includes educating the public and taking steps to prevent its ability to spread amongst the population. (Of course what is considered proper steps is currently being debated.)
 
From everything I've read, it spread to humans from handling the carcasses of infected animals. I'm not sure how accurate that really is. I do know there are a few different variations of the disease but none are so different from another that they are spread differently.

I also read how it was compared to AIDS but in my opinion that is simply based on how the two are contracted. It's far easier to catch the flu. And unlike AIDS, you'll know how your experience with the disease will go within about 16 days of experiencing symptoms.

Though I said that this is not something to panic about, I don't think we should test how far it can spread. I'm all in favor of stopping the disease quickly, atleast in our country.
 
Hey, any update on the Ebola. Can anyone confirm if the death rate moved from 50% to 70%?

The CDC is really doing a great job of keeping the Social Media informed.

Is there any change in the way people can contract the disease?

The hospitals look to be 100% prepared. They can handle staff infections with ease.

Is there some other virus out there? Where did that come from?

What's the incubation time- I missed that?

Keep 'em flying into our country -that's the best way for containment.
 
Dr. Friedman CDC Director is doing a wonderful job.

I think he really explained it well on who should ride the bus.
 
I know. Just trying not to scare people but to let them see and make their own decisions on what's out there.
 
cga82 said:
Hey, any update on the Ebola. Can anyone confirm if the death rate moved from 50% to 70%?

The CDC is really doing a great job of keeping the Social Media informed.

Is there any change in the way people can contract the disease?

The hospitals look to be 100% prepared. They can handle staff infections with ease.

Is there some other virus out there? Where did that come from?

What's the incubation time- I missed that?

Keep 'em flying into our country -that's the best way for containment.
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You sure spend a lot of time talking [edited] and offering little of substance.
 
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Pot = Kettle

Let’s re-visit the deeply reasoned offerings on this thread by scoutpilot:

“Stopped caring at Fox News.”

“You sure spend a lot of time talking [edited] and offering little of substance.”

Pot = Kettle
 
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I agree with scoutpilot. This is the second thread I've seen cga82 screw up with strange remarks. It doesn't seem useful to me.
 
kinnem said:
I agree with scoutpilot. This is the second thread I've seen cga82 screw up with strange remarks. It doesn't seem useful to me.
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Sorry you don't like it but I am trying to get more people to look at what's happening around them. I would like to see others on this forum whom I believe have a common bond to be safe and informed. I don't want to do anymore than that.

If it seems strange in how I approach that-well that's how I am.

You can always use that little arrow in the left hand corner.

Scoutpilot has a problem so I'll wait for more name calling and attacks as before.
 
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This is the time where we as a community of posters should sefl-moderate. Lets easy up a bit.:wink:

I can almost feel stealth_81 hiding in the corner with his golden key waiting to lock this thread up.:eek:
 
This on-going banter is tiresome but it certainly fits the theme of "off topic"

If there is nothing new to add, why don't we all just let this one burn out?
 
Boozebin said:
This is the time where we as a community of posters should sefl-moderate. Lets easy up a bit.:wink:

I can almost feel stealth_81 hiding in the corner with his golden key waiting to lock this thread up.:eek:
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USMCGrunt said:
This on-going banter is tiresome but it certainly fits the theme of "off topic"

If there is nothing new to add, why don't we all just let this one burn out?
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I think that would happen when the community of posters self-immolate. :wink:
 
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