Transfer GPA Question

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  1. cadetjohnson

    cadetjohnson Member

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    How is a transfer student's GPA determined? Are all undergraduate classes included in the GPA from all institutions or does the GPA on the official transcript from the school where ROTC is taken used only? I've been researching this online but can't find a definite answer.

    If the school counts transfer credits but doesn't use the grades in the GPA how does that work?
     
  2. mbitr

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    This was answered during the accessions brief at LDAC as well. The GPA used is your cumulative for all undergraduate (if pursuing a bachelors) or graduate (if I the Masters program) coursework for all coursework, at all colleges attended. If your current school does not take transfer GPA into account on your transcript, your unit HR tech is supposed to take your other transcripts and compute this in CCIMS.
     
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    I've heard that as well but I question it because when I've spoken to other cadets they stated that the only thing that mattered was the GPA from their current institutions as that was the GPA used in accessions. I've also read online that the GPA at the current university is the only thing used for accessions so I don't know what's correct...
     
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    ^ It appears then that supposed to is the key phrase.
     
  5. infantry12mom

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    DS transferred during his sophomore year. They counted his credits but his previous grades did not compute into his GPA at the 2nd school. He was told by his cadre that GPA would be solely on classes taken at the 2nd school.
     
  6. mbitr

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    For what it's worth the word "integrity" was tossed around several times during the briefing.
     
  7. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    mbitr...can you tell us what regulation that comes from.

    CCPAM 145-4 states:

    (b) Once the GPA has been established, the institutions procedure for computing the GPA applies to all further actions involving the student in ROTC activities, LTC, scholarship actions, waivers, and commissioning.

    What that means is we take the GPA off the transcripts where the Cadet is currently enrolled. If the school doesn't take into account the GPA from previous schools then we don't either. I've seen Cadets helped and hurt by this policy, but that's what the reg says.

    Are you aware of a reg that says something different??
     
  8. cjs

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    My son is required to take 9 summer credit hours in our state and has obtained a 4.0 always. Even though it was taken at other state schools, his school will use it as credit and to fulfill required class however does not use it in his GPA.
    ROTC uses his school GPA and doesn't change it.

    while he is not a transfer student, the credit for these required hours does transfer into the school.
     
  9. khergan

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    Using transfer credit for GPA purposes has actually been a big push from Cadet Command recently.

    They sent an email out recently stressing that PMS must take into account ALL college credit for accessions. Last year, most schools just took the current cGPA from your resident school and didn't count transfer GPA.

    It's one of many changes that the accessions process is going through.
     
  10. mbitr

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    I have no idea what or where the written guidance is. I'm regurgitating what was told to me by the DA civilians from Cadet Command who run accessions. It was something I had been confused about as well prior to the brief. I was told coming into ROTC only my institutional GPA would count. I guess I was misinformed because there was no room for interpretation or debate in what he told us. All credit, all institutions attended.

    e: It was also mentioned three years of academic data needed to show in CCIMS.
     
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    I guess ill have to wait and find out. I have college credits from 7 yrs ago where I didn't do so well but now I'm rocking and rolling in my classes and have a strong GPA...
     
  12. mbitr

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    Wait and find out for what? Either you're honest and play by the rules or you aren't. I'd easily be in the top 10% if only my current school's GPA counted. But how would that be fair to everyone else? Again, it was stated during the brief that if your cum GPA isn't what's being used by your battalion then you need to have the integrity to correct it.
     
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    Well Sir that wasnt mentioned in the brief I went to and if the regs state otherwise then I'm going with the regs. Ill talk with my PMS when I return to my university. Thanks for your input.
     
  14. mbitr

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    It was discussed at great length in the 1st/2nd reg briefing with those who make the policy. I would encourage you to request clarification your PMS get clarification if the answer you get is based off old information.
     
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    Yeah that's what I'm going to do. I guess either way it is what it is.
     

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