Transferring from AD to Reserve/Guard?

Fyterpilot22

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Right now, I'm about to start UPT and hope to get a fighter. However, in the event that I don't, how would transferring into the Guard/Reserve work? I'm pretty sure I can't transfer until my initial commitment of 10 years is fulfilled. If I happen to get cargo and want to go to a Reserve/Guard unit to fly fighters, would I have to go through UPT again?
 
Right now, I'm about to start UPT and hope to get a fighter. However, in the event that I don't, how would transferring into the Guard/Reserve work? I'm pretty sure I can't transfer until my initial commitment of 10 years is fulfilled. If I happen to get cargo and want to go to a Reserve/Guard unit to fly fighters, would I have to go through UPT again?

I have a feeling by the time you hit 10 years, you're not going to be concerned enough to do it....and you'll probably love what you fly by then anyway.

Hopefully they won't be pushing too many more people in our classes. I start 15-05 ahead of ya. The T-38 drops for our classes should be ok.
 
Not to be a party-pooper.

But it has been my experience that ANG/AFRC fighter units are VERY VERY hesitant to accept any "tried and true" pilots with 10+ years in a non-fighter MWS. The costs are simply too great.

First...was the pilot in the fighter/bomber track? Second...can they pass the centrifuge test (NOT easy as you age, trust me on this one) and third...why should they when there are current/qualified fighter pilots available?

Again, not to burst your bubble...I suppose it has happened...

Steve
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Not to be a party-pooper.

But it has been my experience that ANG/AFRC fighter units are VERY VERY hesitant to accept any "tried and true" pilots with 10+ years in a non-fighter MWS. The costs are simply too great.

First...was the pilot in the fighter/bomber track? Second...can they pass the centrifuge test (NOT easy as you age, trust me on this one) and third...why should they when there are current/qualified fighter pilots available?

Again, not to burst your bubble...I suppose it has happened...

Steve
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USAFA '83

I figured that since I would already be a pilot that it would save some money to not have to send me to OTS/IFS but what you said makes sense too. Just wondering if there's any way I could still make my dream happen if I get something other than fighters. That's not to say I won't enjoy cargo but every night I still dream of strapping a viper or an eagle to myself and call it a "job" :biggrin: Thanks for the reply Col [last name removed by Moderator].

I have a feeling by the time you hit 10 years, you're not going to be concerned enough to do it....and you'll probably love what you fly by then anyway.

Hopefully they won't be pushing too many more people in our classes. I start 15-05 ahead of ya. The T-38 drops for our classes should be ok.

I can't wait to start up. I talked to our Capt about leave and that's when he told me that he sent up his preferences for people being moved around. First, I was in 15-04 then got pushed to March (15-07) and then he told me that he put my name in for 15-06 so who knows but keeping my fingers crossed! Btw, you know me. Huzzah? :thumb:
 
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I have been outed?!!

:yikes:

Hmm..."Del Rio by the sea..." and I know this person...

:sofa:

Steve
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USAFA '83
 
Naw. I forgot I accidentally scared him away when he was a 4 dig and I was a big scary firstie in 10. :) he walked by CQ and I said "hi fyterpilot." Scarred him for life and I completely forgot! Now we live a block apart and work the same casual job. Haha. Small world.
 
Another problem reason a fighter unit wouldn't take a non-fighter guy...

Unless you get assigned a fighter or bomber, (or go through Sheppard) you have not flown the T-38 nor have flown any tactical formation, nor have operated with a 'single seat' mentality...to top it off, you did not complete IFF (Introduction to Fighter Fundamentals...LIFT for the old guys).

Guard/reserve units do send brand new 2lts through UPT...but he still has to do well enough to complete all the above mentioned training, + the training on the actual combat aircraft.

To be blunt, they wouldn't want to waste the money and time on a pilot who already demonstrated the limits of his abilities/motivation.

(BTW, this does not apply to FAIPs who didn't get a fighter...there is a possible very slim chance for them)

But you know what, if you work hard, and do your best, you will get a fantastic assignment and great career...maybe not the one you want, but one non-flyers would be jealous of.
 
LIFT...

Yep, I remember that!

IFF...I assume it's the same...

Steve
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USAFA '83
 
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