Triple Q'd and Nominated vs. Appointed

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  1. R.Martin95

    R.Martin95 Member

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    According to the data I have seen (http://www.westpoint.edu/bov/siteassets/meeting minutes/Signed Meeting Minutes 20120614.pdf) somewhere between 15% and 25% of candidates who become Triple Qualified and nominated are not offered an appointment. This might be a very silly question, but I was wondering if anyone knew a particular aspect of an applicant's profile would be the most likely to indicate being appointed over just qualified. I read somewhere that it was most likely academics; can anyone confirm?

    Thanks so much!
     
  2. tug_boat

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    Appointments, appointments

    That is the question. This is were the applicants WCS plays into the mystery of how, who, what, why and when. Let me give you insight into my DS journey that is still continuing. He lives in a very competitive area, one of the most. Last year alone 35 received appointments to USMA. With a wide range of resumes. My DS was 3Q'd but received a QNS letter in Feb. He has a very very strong resume. When he received his QNS he had his pitty party (like many others, he wanted to attend USMA since he was ten yrs old), and he moved on with a strong plan B he was totally content with. Then something odd happened, he received a phone call from a prep school telling him WP is offering a scholarship. This scholarship is not an AOG but directly from WP. This glimmer of light pulled at him and he walked away from a AROTC and academic scholarships in hopes of another shot at WP. We had long conversation about gambling, sure bets, and taking risks. He is now doing very well at the prep school. This prep school has a great track record.

    A good friend of mine fell into the same situation last year. His son had a full ride scholarship to attend U of A then out of the blue he received a Falcon scholarship and is now at the AFA.

    There are some very interesting debates about this subject all over the SAF. I suggest you look for them and also how they base WCS.

    Good luck
    Push hard, press forward
     
  3. GoArmyBeatNavy

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    I have only heard of two prep options that are endorsed by USMA: AOG Prep Scholarship Program and the USMAPS. Both greatly increase a candidate's chances of being accepted. How did your DS receive a scholarship directly from West Point that is not through the Association of Graduates?
     
  4. buff81

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    I agree with GoArmyBeatNavy. Never heard of a WP scholarship outside of the AOG scholarships to approved prep school and USMAPS.
    Care to share details?
    This is rather curious :confused:
     
  5. buff81

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    That's a very complicated question to answer.
    I assume that you are talking about candidates on the NWL. So we are taking those nominated who won their MOC slot, out of the equation.

    Basically, those on the NWL are ranked top to bottom by WCS.
    60% of your WCS is based on academics, so you could say that academics is a major factor. But there are also other factors. But only the top 150 come off the list based on WCS. THe rest of the class can be filled from the NWL based on whatever WP needs to round out the class. They have certain goals they want to reach in terms of % of scholars, athletes, women, leaders, under-represented minorities and soldiers.
    Also, 3/4 of those after the first 150 that come off the NWL have to come from Congressional noms. The other 1/4 from the other nominating sources.
    So - as you can see, there is no easy answer.

    All you can do it do YOUR best.
    Take the ACT/SAT as much as possible.
    Strive to be a leader in the groups that you are a part of.

    Give WP the best file that you can and don't worry about the system. :thumb:
     
  6. MemberLG

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    Their competition was better. Two years ago I worked two applicants that were QNS in the same congressional district. I was was shocked that they didn't get in the first time (about 2100+ SAT, top 1%, sports, leadership). They reapplied and got their appointments.
     

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