Trying to Enlist in ANG after leaving USAFA

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  1. CVanCamp

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    I have recently out processed from the United States Air Force Academy after completing Basic Training and one semester of classes. I am now looking to enlist in the Air National Guard, but they are telling me that I am not eligible because I have the RE code 4L on my DD 214.

    Type of seperation: Discharge Character of Service: Honorable
    Seperation Code: JFF (Secretarial Authority) Reentry Code: 4L (Seperated Commissioning Program)

    I am not sure why as I have a honorable discharge and never had any conduct violations/health issues or anything of the sort during my time at USAFA. Does anyone know why I might have received this code and if I can still enlist?
     
  2. USAFretired1996

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    I spent my entire AF career in Personnel but as you can tell by my User ID, I retired a long, long time ago so what I tell you could be outdated. Discharge characterization has no bearing on reenlistment eligibility. My guess is that you are 4L because the AF is in the process of jettisoning active duty members through RIFs, SERBs, TERA, etc., who also served honorably and there just isn’t any room at the inn for you or any other member who didn’t complete the program they signed up for. I believe that you can make an application to change the RE code through the BCMR process. See the attached link.

    http://www.afpc.af.mil/afveteraninformation/airforceboardforcorrectionofmilitaryrecords/
     
  3. kdc246

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    DS out processed USAFA a little more than a year ago(was only there for 7 months). His separation code was JFF and reentry code 4L. I don't pretend to know what it means. He did however enlist in the Active Duty AF (DEP)about 11 months ago and is due to leave for BMT later this month. It did take the local MEPS about a week to figure out how he was enlisting prior/non-prior. The finally decided he was non-prior and I can't honestly say how that determination was made either. I would ask your recruiter again or get with his flight chief, they may have more information. If you have to contact MEPS directly. From what I am seeing there is no reason by the coding to keep you from enlisting.
     
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    Your son’s entry into DEP 11 months ago was before the AF announced that they were cutting another 25k Airmen for FY15. I wonder if CVanCamp is being affected by that. Maybe he will come back here and let us know how he fares. Good luck to him.
     
  5. CVanCamp

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    Talked to my recruiter today and was told that unless I contact the DoD and get them to change my code I will not be allowed to enlist. Gonna try to go that way but if any of you guys know any other way I can get this done it would be greatly appreciated. I love serving my country as a member of the military and not being allowed to enlist would just be a slap in the face. Im not sure what I would do
     
  6. kdc246

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    Did they give you an acceptable code for reentry? DS did not get his guaranteed job until 6 months ago-he is going Spec Ops. Maybe because he DEP'd 11-12 months ago, he beat the draw down. However, I do know from this side that 600+ Airman are inprocessing BMT every week. Though, it doesn't take much to let recruits go for failing to meet standards or failing tech school. I would seek a recruiter for AD and see what the answer is. It may be a difference in the Air Guard. You could also try the AF Reserve. Explore all options, or possibly a different service if you want to join the military as badly as you say you do.
     
  7. USAFretired1996

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    Any RE code beginning with a “4” automatically bars a separating member from reentry. The code is waiverable as evidenced by KDC246’s son and in my day, the waiver authority for active duty accessions was the Recruiting Service commander at Randolph. I don’t have any idea who the waiver authority is for the ANG but it sounds like the ANG is not requesting waivers which is why they are telling you to get the RE code changed through the BCMR process. You don’t need to worry about what RE code to change it to. If the Board approves your request, they will figure that out for you.

    The ANG and Reserve are making a big push through the Palace Chase program to capture a lot of active duty separatees as a result of the current force structure changes and there are plenty to choose from. As KDC246 said, the AF is accessing hundreds of kids each week into BMT just as AFA announced a new class for 2018. The current downsizing doesn’t mean the AF doesn’t need to continue to build a future AF. As with anything in life, timing is everything and this appears to be the wrong time for you to join the ANG unless you get that RE changed. Good luck.
     
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