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  1. Smalltowngirl

    Smalltowngirl Member

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    Unfortunately, my DD received her dreaded TWE today in the mail. She is currently a college student and did not apply to USMA last year. She is a reapplicant for the USAFA and is still waiting on that one. Nothing on her portal or email from USMA--just the TWE. Good luck to those of you still waiting!
     
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  2. EOD/SEALmom

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    So sorry. Sending best wishes for USAFA!
     
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  3. Ice64

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    Encourage your DD through this disappointment. Life is not over. She is not a failure. Her life is just beginning, and this is just one way in which her future is being guided. She has the USAFA possibility still for this year. If that doesn't come through there are still other options next year towards her goal of becoming an officer. Keep on trying and pushing forward! Best wishes for your DD in the future.
     
  4. HelicopterMom

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    So sorry and I wish her the best!

    Question: The applicants that are receiving TWEs right now, did they have the 3Q letter/pdf on their home page? Had they been notified that they were 3Qed?
     
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  5. Smalltowngirl

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    DD had not been notified if she was 3Q or not and had very little luck when dealing with her RC or FFR. She was medically and physically qualified, this much we knew.
     
  6. HelicopterMom

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    Thank you and good luck to her for USAFA!
     
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  7. tug_boat

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    Good luck to you. You will find success in your new goals

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
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  8. USMA_ljm

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    Very kind of you to share this info at a disappointing time. As others have said encourage her, someone with her goals will undoubtedly find a way to attain them.
     
  9. Smalltowngirl

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    Does anyone know if admissions will update or close your file once they've sent the TWE? Nothing has changed on DD's and the letter is dated March 7th.
     
  10. familyfunx6

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    Our DS was "denied for low scores" via the portal on Friday for a different SA. Guessing the TWE will come this week.
    Good luck and best wishes for USAFA.
     
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  11. k$Mom

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    Do they specify why they turn you down on all of the letters?
     
  12. familyfunx6

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    We are not sure what the letter says, that reason was on his status in the portal. He has not received the TWE yet.
     
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  13. Smalltowngirl

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    They did not give a reason. Just says that there was rigorous competition and that 13,500 people applied for 1200 appointments. It told her to continue pursuing ROTC scholarships, USAFA , and Texas A&M.
     
  14. soyce

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    so basically do candidates who were not deemed "competetive" in terms of being 3Q'd get the TWE?
     
  15. 845something

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    When a candidate is mathematically eliminated from the competition, then a TWE is sent. For a demonstration in simplest terms, let's say a candidate can only have one nomination from a MOC. That MOC nominates 10 individuals, and sends a competitive slate.

    #1 will get the offer if they become medically qualified.
    #2 gets an offer in this case because their WCS is high enough for NWL, but they have not accepted because USAFA is their priority.
    #3 is fully qualified and waiting on one or both of the above to decide
    #4 and #5 go to the same school. #5 is a recruited athlete with a LOA, so both 4 and 5 get an offer (too easy for #4 to lodge a complaint of why their DS or DD was better and didn't get an offer)
    #6, and #7 get QNS because there is no way with all individuals above them with offers accepted and pending that they will fill that vacancy
    #8 is DQ'd already because of academics
    #9 is coming from USMAPS and will get an offer towards April
    #10 didn't even have an application open because they didn't understand the process and West Point gladly closed the file they failed to complete in the month from the time the nomination came in and file deadline.

    West Point will hold off on sending a QNS to #3 until they can make the determination who will bring the most to the class...a lot of that revolves around #1 and #2 obviously, but also the rest of the class in comparison to #3. Likely scenario:

    April 15th roles around and #1 is not medically Q'd, then that vacancy would go to #2. Even if #2 declines because USAFA came through, #3 may or may not get an offer depending on how the class fill looks at that point in time. If it is full, #4 fills the vacancy, and #3 gets a QNS. If #3 is close to being a NWL candidate or fits a scholar or leadership class composition goal that is lacking, they may get an offer. With three accepted offers already, this district is on the high end of their proportional share of cadets for that class. Depending on the skill of the RC to see how the class fill and composition is shaping up relative to that #3, the RC may not even wait until the resolution of #1 and #2 to send the QNS. It is even more complex with multiple nominations with different candidates on each/multiple slates.

    This is the art side behind filling a class that you do not see. If you are 3Q with a nomination and waiting on an offer, this is what is going on behind the scenes. The longer it takes to get your QNS, the closer on the bubble you are to an offer (for NWL, your MOC, or an additional appointee spot if you fit a class composition goal). At this point with almost 800 accepted, and 200 Prepsters still to be offered, most of the spots are filled or pending for this next class as we can safely assume that there are offers out for a significant portion of the remaining 200 spots. Given the number on this forum waiting on a med waiver or another service academy to make a decision on an offer, that number of available spots could quickly diminish in a matter of weeks/days as other TWEs come in and med waivers are approved. It could go the other way as well with med waivers not approved and offers from other service academies leading to declinations.
     
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  16. mom3boys

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    As always, thank you for participating in this forum and explaining the admission process from an inside view.
     
  17. USMA_ljm

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    Wow, thanks 845something, I had no idea about the 200 prepsters having to wait for their nominations. Very interesting post.
     
  18. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    Great stuff!
    Should be a sticky!
     
  19. LLJ

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    USNA had lot of TWE's sent out this week. Has USMA had anything like that yet?

    It appears, from 854Something's analysis, there are maybe 200 appointments left; but I haven't seen a lot of TWE's mentioned here.
     
  20. Blessedmom

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    There are lots of kids who received appointments to multiple SA, think deadline to accept USMA is mid April & other SA between April-May, also keep in mind most top colleges' acceptance come out end of March (some might decide to attend Stanford etc vs SA). For example, my son accepted USNA but did not decline USMA yet? My point is don't lose hope, spaces will start opening up as SA appointments are accepted & declined within few months;)
     
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