Two boys from the same town?

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  1. themutis

    themutis Member

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    My son and a classmate both received a nomination from our congressman. My son received the principle nominations (he had an LOA) and has since received an appointment to the Naval Academy.

    My question is, what are the odds that his friend will also get in? It would be wonderful to have them both there!

    Thanks
     
  2. USNA13DAD

    USNA13DAD Member

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    Same town

    Dont know what the odds are but my son (plebe) and another young man (plebe) both received LOAs and Noms and Appointments to the Academy from the same town (pop. 15,000) but were from different high schools. So good luck.
     
  3. usnaswim14

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    There are two people from my highschool that got into the Naval Academy. We both had LOAs and nominations from different sources but it happens.
     
  4. DevilDog

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    My son and a female classmate of his both received Noms, and LOA's to Air Force and Navy. They are actually the first two from their school to even apply to a service academy.
     
  5. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    It is quite common for more than one person from the same town, same school, same family -- even twins -- to be admitted the same year.
     
  6. singaporemom

    singaporemom Member

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    Please correct me if I am wrong. The nominations that satisfy the LOAs, do not get credited to the Congressman's tally of how many kids he has at the academy. Is this correct?
     
  7. themutis

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    I didn't hear that - my son had a LOA so maybe that mean that our congressman has another nomination he can sponsor
     
  8. coffeecup3

    coffeecup3 Member

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    Yes you are correct.
     
  9. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    I've never heard of this. Not saying it isn't true, but am curious as to where you got this info.
     
  10. marciemi

    marciemi USMA Alumnus

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    I agree - everything I've been told is that it comes down to WCS. Okay first caveat is that the academies will all juggle the noms as much as possible to get the most qualified applicants and the wants they want most, so anything can vary at any time. But I thought normally the top WCS on a slate got assigned to that MOC (again, barring any juggling because they really want number 2 or whatever on the slate). In a normal situation, if #1 also happens to have an LOA, unless the MOC designated someone else as principal, then #1 (with LOA) will be assigned to the MOC. If someone on the slate has a higher WCS score, then THEY will get assigned to the MOC and the person with the LOA will be juggled elsewhere.

    Some MOC's intentionally use a principal method when they have someone with an LOA on their slate to make sure they get two candidates in. Others have a set procedure and don't change it in any case. (So if they normally do a principal and they think the LOA is the best, they'll still name them as principal. Or if they normally do competitive, they still will even if that means only the LOA is charged to them). In very competitive areas, they may have 5 or so LOA's on one slate anyway! In non competitive areas, it may be rare to even see an LOA.

    From what I understand, WHERE everyone is charged isn't 100% decided until I/R day, when the last candidates show up and are sworn in. But I'm pretty sure that it's not true that LOA's are NEVER charged to a particular MOC.
     
  11. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    ^^^^

    Your understanding is the same as mine -- otherwise, why would they ever tell LOA candidates even to seek noms?:confused:

    As far as candidates go, once you're a mid, you may at some time on some document see a nominating source listed. I honestly don't know if this is the actually one to which you were slotted or not. In my case, I had two noms (Pres and MOC). I once saw a doc that said my source was Pres. But, not sure if that was just a listing of one of my sources or was THE source.

    At the end of the day, it makes zero difference in your life from the minute you have an appointment. You have the golden ticket. It's USNA's problem to ensure their slotting of appointments conforms with the law.
     
  12. Whistle Pig

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    We had an LOA last year, credited to our MOC. However, they may not necessarily be credited to the MOC.

    RE: multiple apptmts ...a couple years back, while a bit of a different "slice", there were allegedly 7 apptmts from one district, 4 of whom came from one HS, none of whom were identified as special target "NotN"
     
  13. futurepilot22

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    The rumor that LOAs are not charged to their MOCs is simply not true. If you look at the laws regarding appointments to the academies, LOAs are not mentioned anywhere, and the laws make it very clear that unless you receive a VP or Supe's nom, or get in off of the NWL, you will need to be charged to your MOC. The fact is that an LOA, in terms of the actual, behind the scenes process for getting candidates appointed, means nothing. It is simply the admissions office letting a candidate know that their WCS is so high, that as long as they get at least one nomination, they will be accepted, either by being charged to their MOC or off the NWL. Don't get me wrong, LOAs are important as only the very, very top candidates receive them, but they don't give you some type of special status as far as nominations go. You WILL still get charged to your MOC, or else you will be appointed off of the NWL. The academies purposely limit the number of LOAs they send out so that they don't run into the situation of having too many LOA recipients and not enough nominations.
     
  14. OnceAMarine

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    Happens fairly often. 3 from our local high school (in a town of about 6,000) are plebes this year.
     
  15. rkrosnar

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    Not to be concerned they are both in, let us know how it turns out.

    RGK
     
  16. 1964BGO

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    Each MOC is permitted 5 midshipmen at USNA. However, if you add all the MOC slots plus those from other sources you will find that the total does not add to the 1,220 to 1,250 USNA has been inducting lately. Some sources have no qualified candidates who accept the offer, some have no one interested in NAVY, but USNA needs to hit its numbers to supply the Fleet with officers. The empty slots will be filled with from the Qualified Alternate list. Yet another reason to do your absolute best to qualify yourself and to keep your information updated throughout the cycle.
     
  17. Chockstock

    Chockstock "Forever One Team"

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    Yeah, I don't see why not :smile: There are 3 SA appointees, including me, at our high school
     
  18. Memphis9489

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    I can top that! I have twins at the academy. Not only did they go to the same high school ... they have identical DNA. :smile:

    Somebody told me that the Class of 2013 has SEVEN sets of twins and they think it may be an academy record.
     
  19. MIHOSER

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    Two from same high school - nominations received on 1-29-10.
     
  20. OnceAMarine

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    Actually I believe it's 5 sets of twins in 2013 (including my identical sons), and there is another 2013 USNA plebe whose twin is at USMA.:thumb:
     

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