Two candidates from same high school?

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  1. runorrun

    runorrun Member

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    This question/topic may be a bit "taboo" since most of us do not have much, if any, insight into the inner workings of USNA's admissions counsel. But it's worth a shot!

    So, I know another student from my high school in my grade who is also applying to USNA. We are in the same Congressional District. Is it a high possibility that both of us can get an appointment? He has better stats in some areas of the application while I have better stats in other areas. I know I'll need a medical waiver for nearsightedness but not sure about him. He is a white male, and I am an Asian female. How possible is it for both of us to get appointments? Our high school class has ~480 kids, and someone from each class has gone to USNA the last two years (one was a recruited athlete).
     
  2. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    Can't speak to your specific situation and I can't say there is a high probability. Nevertheless it does happen all the time. There are even sets of twins at the Academies. Pursue every nomination you are eligible for to give the Academy more slots (and therefore options) for charging your appointment. Good luck! :thumb:
     
  3. fencersmother

    fencersmother Founding Member

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    Um, we had TWO FROM THE SAME FAMILY , same EVERYTHING, get nominated and appointed.

    I'll get flamed for this but you probably have a slightly better chance being an Asian female than he does as a white male, since you might come under more "diversity" columns. But one doesn't always know about that since MY children, white males, were diversity candidates because of homeschooling.

    Remember "Diversity" to USNA/USAFA/USMA doesn't always mean the same thing as it does to the news media.
     
  4. Brenmaron

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    My son's high school sent 3 to the Naval Academy this year and one to NAPS. Good luck!
     
  5. runorrun

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    Thanks!! I've submitted the nomination forms for all the sources I am eligible. Hopefully, we will both be able to receive an appointment! It is actually quite encouraging and supportive to have a classmate also applying
     
  6. mdn18

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    Nope, you're absolutely right. I could say a lot more about this, but all I'm going to say is that you would have an advantage because A) You're female & B) You're Asian. Also if you are one of the first in your family to attend college that'd give you a small advantage too.

    Point is, try to crush your competition and max out everything possible! I didn't get in my first try, but I'm reapplying now as a soon-to-be college freshman. Good luck! :thumb:
     
  7. MIHOSER

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    When my S started USNA it was with another fellow from his high school class. They knew each other in high school but weren't good friends.

    They rarely saw each other at USNA in that (i) they were in different companies and (ii) they were in different activities. One was VOST and the other was glee club. Not much overlap there.
     
  8. Ratdawg81

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    .....not sure what you mean by medical waiver on nearsightedness? Not sure there is such a thing. I think if you are not within 6 diopters corrected to 20/20 your not medically qualified and they don't issue waivers for that from what I understand
     
  9. SR-71

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    Yes - USNA do admit multiple candidates from a high school and congressional district. Bluntly, you are at dis-advantage for being an Asian female. You are competing among Asian for the limited slots, not with other race or ethnicity. Below is the USNA class profile for 2017.

    Women
    Two hundred seventy three (273) women (22.9% of the class)
    were admitted with the Class of 2017 (917 men admitted)

    Race
    Non-Minority 927 77.9%
    Asian 86 7.3%
    African American 124 10.4%
    Native American 17 1.4%
    Pacific Islander 20 1.7%

    Ethnicity
    Hispanic 109 9.2%
    Non-Hispanic 1065 89.5%
    Ethnic/Racial 356 29.9%

    For entrainment read the study below.

    http://priceonomics.com/post/48794283011/do-elite-colleges-discriminate-against-asians
     
  10. Vista123

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    A girl from my son's class in school got in on the very first round of acceptances to NASS. My son did not get in until the second round of NASS acceptances that went out. It made all of us VERY VERY nervous... We actually referred to her as "The Uber Latina"....she had the same ACT but better GPA, Captain of the Xcountry team, Student Body president, Captain of the math team and was a first generation MEXICAN AMERICAN, English as a second language GIRL. To make it worse she was cute, nice and a good friend of my son's.... We were nervous!!!

    A Forum-Friend said "dont worry about it, she will not end up at the naval Academy."

    He was right.

    My son got an LOA about 6 wks after NASS.

    Regarding "The Uber Latina"......poor girl ended up at Harvard. Bless her heart!


    My point is, don't fret just keep working to improve your WCS.
     
  11. runorrun

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    Wait, is it true that I only compete against my ethnicity? That sounds awfully strange. And I've heard USNA does gender-blind admissions; does anyone have a source to prove or disprove this? Ratdawg81- according to USNA's website (I'm on mobile, but I'll get the link once I'm on a PC), it says up to 35% of each class is allowed a vision waiver. Well, anyway I want to get in on my own merit, not because of something I cannot control. Same goes for my classmate, I hope he does not get his admission decision based on something out of his control.
     
  12. mmb5

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    Vision waiver

    I'd be very interested to hear the source for the vision waiver. And I have seen one place that says 6.0 diopters, andother that says 8.0.

    From Larry Mullen at Dodmerb a couple of years ago:

    Effective 28 Apr 2010, that is no longer correct. This new standard is "Current refractive error (hyperopia (367.0), myopia (367.1), astigmatism (367.2x)), in excess of -8.00 or +8.00 diopters spherical equivalent or astigmatism in excess of 3.00 diopters {does NOT meet standards}er
    Am posting on Dodmerb to see if I can get clarification.
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  13. runorrun

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    Ratdawg81 and mmb5 - This is the link for the 35% comment I made earlier. "The number of waivers granted for candidates whose vision requires correction to 20/20 should not exceed 35% of the entering class." http://www.usna.edu/AboutAIS/Did You Know.php

    My NROTC Coordinator/Recruiter told me +/-8.00 diopters is the current limit, so I am assuming that is so. I know of someone who got a waiver for vision about 1.0 to 1.5 more than the limit, but each situation is handled on a case-by-base basis. My vision is -8.50. :frown:
     
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    Wrong.
     
  15. cajost

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    I agree with Maplerock. I don't believe at all that you are at a disadvantage.

    My daughter is at Plebe summer right now, and:

    1. The class of 2018 has the most females ever - 303.
    2. If you look at the pictures (which I do everyday) there is a very clear diversity to the class. Talking about a melting pot!
    3. Unless you are blind as a bat, you should see how many Plebes are wearing glasses! (Oh and they are so attractive...:shake:)


    I posted a few weeks ago the profile for the Class of 2018 - check it out.

    Bottom-line: Don't let anyone discourage you from going to USNA and applying.

    I thought the application process was a wild ride - whoa. Plebe summer has been too and she is loving it!

    Go for it! :thumb:
     
  16. runorrun

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    cajost - That is so sweet of you to say! I noticed you were the one with your daughter at the hospital- hopefully she is feeling a lot better now, especially since Plebe Summer is just about coming to a close! Thank you for the encouragement; I am definitely working towards that appointment :)
     
  17. GoSox

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    It is incorrect that anyone who is in a minority group gets an advantage in admissions. There is some advantage for members of under-represented minorities (for example African American, Latino, Native American), but Asians are not considered under-represented minorities.

    Your gender will, I believe, also be a neutral factor. There are many Navy/USMC billets open to women so they don't need to artificially keep down the numbers, and on the other hand they have plenty of well-qualified women applicants so they are not trying to boost numbers quickly such that women would have a significant admissions advantage.

    Do your best, work hard, and I would advise considering additional service academies as well if your goal is to serve your country as an officer in the armed forces, as right now USNA is one of the more competitive SAs to get into.

    Good luck!
     
  18. Iowa 73

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    Do the best that you can do and the rest will take care of itself. :thumb:
     
  19. USNArules

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    Does religion matter?

    Seems like some religions might be under-represented at the academies? Thoughts on Muslim, Judaism, Catholicism?
     
  20. FighterPilotHopeful

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    I doubt that Catholicism is under-represented.
     

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