Type 7 to Type 2 convert question

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  1. 6KDogwhistle

    6KDogwhistle Member

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    I'm trying to help someone with a question that I can't answer and I can't wait for the AFROTC folks to get back to me so I'm in a little bind here so, HELP!
    Background: Awarded a type 7 scholarship and have been accepted into several schools but not interested in any of them. He wants to attend junior college while enrolling in AFROTC as a cross town student and transfer (hopefully) to a school of his choice. Given this scenario, will he be able to convert his type 7 to a type 2 or is this a no go?
    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Pima

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    My advice is the friend you are trying to help contact HQ AFROTC directly. He/She needs to take control of this situation because it is their scholarship at risk. Forums are great, but when the rubber hits the road, you should never rely on anything on a forum if it comes down to $$$.
     
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  3. 6KDogwhistle

    6KDogwhistle Member

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    Seriously?
     
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    Yes, seriously. Would you just take some strangers word when you had tens of thousands of dollars on the line? I wouldn't.
     
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  5. 6KDogwhistle

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    Why even have forums? People come on here to get info and you'd think that most people can filter out the bs. And to state the obvious seems a bit foolish. So yeah Sherlock....seriously?!?! Your sarcasm is not welcomed.
     
  6. Pima

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    I was serious because on the letter there is fine print, and I have been here long enough to know that every year the system seems to get tweaked a little bit more. The letter should give them all the direction that they need, especially a direct contact number for HQ AFROTC.

    The situation you are talking about is rare. In my 7 years here I have never seen that question asked or answered, so yes, when kinnem and I said contact HQ because this is a forum it was not meant in a sarcastic way at all, it was meant that this is too important to rely on anyone's opinion.

    If you want me to take a guess, and that is what it is...the answer is NO he cannot take the scholarship because I believe that it can only be used at a 4 year college and that means a junior college would not qualify to that fine print regarding the scholarship. Hence, the best answer is for them to contact HQ.

    Honestly, I can't understand why any kid would spend the money to apply to any college let alone multiple colleges that they did not want to attend in the 1st place. I get the whole safety school deal, but basically in your post it was not just that one safety school, but SEVERAL schools that they decided against.

    OBTW, although AFROTC scholarships are tied to the cadet and not the school they do request during the application process to list the schools they are interested in attending. Unless things have changed it is a drop down tab on the application. So, your friend should have been able to see when doing the process if that school was allowed in the 1st place. If it wasn't on their approved list than the answer again is easy...nope.

    Good on you for wanting to assist, but at some point they need to take responsibility of their life. Just saying...
    why are you waiting for the AFROTC folks to get back to you, shouldn't they be waiting for the answer?
     
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  7. HerksRule

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    I can see why this isn't all that clear.

    This year's selection letter doesn't describe the school choices in any specific detail, other than to say "public" (even though we know conversions to private institutions are accepted and happen all the time). Further, the acceptance letter makes no reference to 2- or 4-year colleges and doesn't define "affiliated school."

    1) Acceptance letter excerpt: Our policy on the Type 7 scholarship requires that you use your Type 7 scholarship at an AFROTC affiliated public school where you qualify for that school's in-state tuition rate. For those not qualifying for a public school's in-state tuition rate, we do not allow Type 7 designees to use the scholarship and pay the difference. However we know some Type 7 designees desire to attend out-of-state schools...To accommodate these desires, we do allow Type 7 designees to convert the 4-Year, Type 7 scholarship to a 3-Year, Type 2 scholarship. The Type 2 designee can attend any AFROTC affiliated school, regardless of the tuition amount.

    2) Website: Students are expected to graduate from the college or university where they begin their freshman year.

    3) Website: For example, to use an electrical engineering scholarship, you must be admitted into an Air Force–approved electrical engineering program at a college or university with an Air Force ROTC program

    All that said, the AFROTC technicians have been very helpful over the years, they know the answers, and they answer the phone. If you are not the guardian I doubt they will give you detailed answers, but perhaps you can make the connections at 866/423-7682 x1
     
  8. Pima

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    Even if you are the guardian, if the recipient is 18 than they will shut you out since they are seen as a legal adult, just like colleges once they are 18 than privacy laws become a factor.
     
  9. MomWPgirl

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    When money is on the line, my advice is always talk to HQ AFROTC. Sometimes even Detach leadership gives erroneous advice. My son was told by his he could change his major without consequences....low and behold a month later they apologetically informed him he lost his scholarship due to change in major. It all worked out and honestly the change in major was the right thing for him but it was a stressful few months for him as he had to figure out how to finance the rest of his education. Always check with HQ when money on the line to avoid issues....and get everything in writing.
     
  10. 6KDogwhistle

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    Thanks for all the inputs. After re-reading my sarcastic reply, I owe some of you an apology. I had a flashback to my old AETC instructor days.:eek: I forgot...it's the kindler gentler military now.:cool:
    I posted the question on here on Saturday and as you know, Uncle Sam's desk jockeys don't man their desks on weekends. We'll just have to wait until tomorrow to straighten this out.
    From what I'm hearing and seeing, it was another super competitive year as the college acceptance rate is on the low. I know of several stellar kids with 4.0+ GPAs and competitive test scores get shot down by what I would consider "just ok" schools. This kid only wants to study engineering (aero or mechanical) and most of the schools that he applied to (U.C. & Cal State), acceptance rates at the school of engineering were well below 20%. There are stellar kids everywhere but I can tell you that the competition here in SoCal is beyond fierce. Safety nets..... you betcha!
     
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  11. 6KDogwhistle

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    I'm answering my own question, so geez, thanks a lot brothas & sistas! And, someone else may find it useful in the future.
    With any of the AFROTC scholarships, you can attend a junior college as long as: 1) The school is a AFROTC approved college with a cross town agreement. 2) Attend a AFROTC approved university starting in your 3rd year. 3) Major in a degree that your scholarship was approved for (technical/non-tech).
    You'd think the AFROTC website would have a FAQ page with this very question and answer. Details details....Uncle Sam is too busy printing money!
     
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