Under represented districts

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  1. jennyp

    jennyp Parent

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    I pulled this list from one of the forums in the previous application cycle. A BGO, maybe 85, posted it there. I am copying my previous copy of the list!


    From a briefing to Blue and Gold Officers earlier this year. The following is a list of Under-represented districts at USNA. I do not know what criteria they used to make this determination:

    New York – 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16,17
    Pennsylvania – 1, 2
    Ohio – 3, 5
    Rhode Island – 2
    New Jersey – 9, 10, 13
    Massachusets – 8
    Florida – 2, 3, 12, 17, 23
    Georgia – 2, 5, 12, 13
    North Carolina – 1, 8, 12
    Virginia – 3
    South Carolina – 5, 6
    Illinois – 1, 2, 4, 5, 9, 17
    Michigan – 5, 10, 12, 14
    Texas – 13, 18, 28, 29
    Wisconsin – 4, 7
    Kentucky – 1
    Tennessee – 9
    Alabama – 2, 3, 4, 7
    Indiana – 7
    Louisiana – 2, 3, 5
    Iowa – 2
    Mississippi – 2
    Nebraska – 3
    California – 5, 7, 8, 9, 13, 20, 21, 27, 28, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 37, 38, 43
    North Dakota – 1
    Oklahoma – 2
    Arizona – 4, 7
    Minnesota – 7
     
  2. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    I didn't post it. I've never seen it. USNA did not tell us which DISTRICTS were underrepresented, only that many were.

    I find it surprising that WY, SD, ID, and MT aren't listed a USNA did specifically tell us that those STATES-- along with ND (included on the above list) -- were underrepresented.

    One other thing -- don't assume you can be less qualified if you reside in an underrepresented district. These districts do have very smart and qualified candidates, just not as many and, in some cases, folks who've never heard of one or more SAs.

    USNA has the same standards across the board; they are simply trying to seek out the qualified students in those districts and get them to apply to USNA to ensure better geographic distribution.
     
  3. jennyp

    jennyp Parent

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    With time I could go back and figure out who was the original poster of that list of under represented districts. 85, I thought it might be you, but I was mistaken. It is "out there" somewhere, though!

    Agree totally that just because you live in an "under represented district," does not mean that you will get in without having all the qualities USNA is looking for. You might have less competition, but as an applicant, you still must meet the standards. Which will lead someone out there into asking "what are the standards?" Which, of course, no one "knows."
     
  4. marciemi

    marciemi USMA Alumnus

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  5. navy2016

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    may be a dumb question but does underrepresented means its less competitive to get a nomination?
    or is it more competitive?

    i live sc district 6, where clyburn appointed someone from my school to usna 2 years ago.
     
  6. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Less competitive for a nom . . . b/c there are fewer people trying for the same 10 slots. However, regardless of where you live, you still have to meet USNA's requirements to get an appointment.
     
  7. navy2016

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    thanks
    i guess that was good to know
     
  8. goldfarb1

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    Good to know. I was wondering how the 5th district-GA stacked up.
     
  9. 2012Cadet

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    If your district isn't listed that doesn't necessarily mean your district is competitive, but just not underrepresented, right? Any list for competitive districts...if not, does anyone know if GA-7th is competitive?
     
  10. Magikeys

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    Another nomination question...

    Speaking of noms, I read somewhere (or possibly heard) that a MOC has two slots available at any one time for each service academy. Does that mean they can have two nominees AT the academy at any one time, or does it mean two nominees per year (class)? Or am I not understanding it at all?

    One of my nomination letters says, "You will now be competing against other outstanding (students) for our state's vacancy for the Naval Academy Class of 2014." Does that mean our entire state only has one vacancy, or this senator only has one slot available, or what?

    I'm just curious, not freaking out or anything. This is just something I've wondered about throughout the process. Thanks for any help you can offer.
     
  11. jennyp

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    Each MOC has 5 slots at each academy, so they have one to fill most years and two about every 4th year. Unless someone leaves or some other anomoly.

    Poor wording in your letter. But kind of accurate in that the MOC nominates ten for his/her open slot and you compete with those other nine for that slot.
     
  12. kwill958

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    Sweet, district 9 in TN is under represented--better chances!!!
     
  13. jennyp

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    Magikeys: Each MOC (Senator and Congressman) can have 5 students at each academy at a given time. If every kid appointed stayed the full four years, then it figures that each MOC would be able to provide a slate of nominees (ten) for two vacancies every fourth year. Some do not make plebe summer, some may withdraw during their four years at USXA. The Academies will tell each MOC how many vacancies he/she has for the upcoming appointment cycle.

    An MOC may present a slate of ten for each vacancy to the Academies; most generally the academies choose who to offer the appointment to from that slate. This is referred to as a competitive nomination and is rumored to be used by some two-thirds of all MOC's. An MOC may also designate a "principal" nominee and nine alternates. The law states that USXA must then offer an appointment to that principal nominee if he/she is qualified. The third way an MOC may present a slate of nominees is a ranked slate of ten.
     
  14. jennyp

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    All please remember, this list is not current for this application cycle (2014) and may change. And it is "unofficial." In general, areas near the water and near military bases are very competitive for USNA. Any military friendly area is competitive for all SA's. The competitiveness of your area will vary from year to year. The only thing that is certain is that you must assemble your very best application package to USXA and your MOC's.

    While Wyoming may not be as competitive as Maryland, candidates must still meet the same rigorous standards no matter where they live.
     
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    Two points:

    1) Most, but not all, of these districts are poorer inner-city districts. For instance, the Arizona ones are Phoenix and Yuma, the Indiana is Indianapolis, and the Virginia is Richmond and Norfolkish. Their "underrepresented" status may be from a lack of nominations, but it is more likely from a lack of qualified candidates, regardless of nomination. (ie I think Norfolk probably would have plenty of applicants but they probably aren't all qualified)

    2) How is the Norfolk area on a list of underrepresented districts for the Naval Academy?!?!?
     
  16. jennyp

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    Hmmmm....we here in west Texas are neither poor nor inner city. We don't even know the way to the inner city. And we are certainly not under qualified. We send plenty of kids to USAFA. I guess it is just hard to spell Navy with the west Texas dust in your eyes!
     
  17. WestTexasmom

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    haha ... jennyp! Our wide-open space out here is anything but innercity! I think our dust storms just give our candidates more "grit"! Maybe being under-represented has something to do with the fact that we can drive for more than 12 hours without crossing a state line or seeing a large body of water.
     
  18. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    More likely because you can drive 12 hrs w/o seeing any people. :yllol:
     
  19. jennyp

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    85: Very true! But we are working hard to spread the word about USNA out here in the great wide open spaces!
     
  20. Drillgasm

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    WOOT! WOOT!!!

    From California's 35th district! :)
     

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