United Airline denied free checked-in bag for cadet

One thing that might help with United (saying this as a VERY frequent United flyer) is wearing one's uniform. I've found all United personnel -- pilots, gate agents, flight attendants -- to be EXTREMELY accommodating of AD personnel in uniform. I've seen uniformed personnel be given open 1/C seats, free food and alcoholic drinks (in coach), as well as priority boarding. I would be VERY surprised if you were charged a bag fee while in uniform.

I understand why cadets may not want to wear their uniforms while traveling on leave:big grin: -- however, at least on United, it may give you some additional perks and/or better treatment.
 
Just to clarify, all midshipmen, cadets, etc are active duty, regardless of what the airlines choose to say or do with them.
 
One thing that might help with United (saying this as a VERY frequent United flyer) is wearing one's uniform. I've found all United personnel -- pilots, gate agents, flight attendants -- to be EXTREMELY accommodating of AD personnel in uniform. I've seen uniformed personnel be given open 1/C seats, free food and alcoholic drinks (in coach), as well as priority boarding. I would be VERY surprised if you were charged a bag fee while in uniform.

I understand why cadets may not want to wear their uniforms while traveling on leave:big grin: -- however, at least on United, it may give you some additional perks and/or better treatment.


Be careful on this. There are regs that can prohibit you from accepting the "gift" of an upgrade to a 1st class seat when you are traveling in uniform.
 
Be careful on this. There are regs that can prohibit you from accepting the "gift" of an upgrade to a 1st class seat when you are traveling in uniform.


Please provide a source for this. You may be correct; however, in my now 12.5 years of service I have never been counseled on this or seen it written in any instructions. Granted I've never looked hard for it, but if you have it please provide a source so we don't provide bad gouge.
 
Please provide a source for this. You may be correct; however, in my now 12.5 years of service I have never been counseled on this or seen it written in any instructions. Granted I've never looked hard for it, but if you have it please provide a source so we don't provide bad gouge.

This is COMPLETELY dependent on branch of service. For example, I know that in the Army (at least from what we were told), you are allowed to accept in uniform, however in the Air Force you are not. I learned this in basic during one of my oh-so-many thrilling briefings on Air Force decorum. It's probably in the AFI somewhere, which is constantly changing. This hasn't always been the rule and will change as the AF sees fit. You are allowed to accept in civvies, though.
 
Please provide a source for this. You may be correct; however, in my now 12.5 years of service I have never been counseled on this or seen it written in any instructions. Granted I've never looked hard for it, but if you have it please provide a source so we don't provide bad gouge.


This are excerpts from a DOD gifting and ethics piece atwww.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/.../10ecc_gifts.pdf‎ :

Travel on commercial airlines. If the non-Federal source offers the employee a gift of travel on a commercial airline, the employee may accept travel in coach class or in premium class other than first class (e.g., business class). However, the employee may not accept a gift of travel in first class, unless the conditions exist that would authorize the Government to purchase a first class airline seat for the employee. 41 C.F.R. § 304-5.5 and 5.6.

XIII. UPGRADES ON OFFICIAL TRAVEL -- WHEN YOU MAY ACCEPT THEM AS A GIFT.
A. An employee may accept an upgrade to first class (or business class) on official travel in any of the following circumstances.
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1. It is an on-the-spot upgrade that is generally available to the public (or at least to all Federal employees or all military members). Examples include an upgrade to a first class airline seat to remedy overcrowding in coach class, and an upgrade to a larger rental car due to a shortage of smaller cars or for customer relations purposes. See generally, 5 C.F.R. 2635.203(b)(4).
2. The upgrade results from a promotional offer that is realistically available to the general public (or to all Federal employees or all military members). For example: an upgrade to first class that is offered to anyone who opens a frequent flyer account. See generally, 5 C.F.R. 2635.203(b)(4). This includes vouchers or upgrade stickers, which are sometimes provided through the Government contract travel office.
3. The upgrade is offered to anyone who accumulates enough frequent flyer miles to belong to a club or group (such as the Gold Card Club), even if some or all of the miles are from official travel. See XIV (A) below. For example, an employee who flies 50,000 miles or more in a year on an airline can be a member of the airline’s Gold Card Club. If the airline gives all of its Gold Card Club members a free upgrade to first class and the employee earns a membership in the Club as a result of 50,000 miles of official travel, the employee may keep the first class upgrade. The upgrade is the property of the employee, who can do with it whatever he or she wants (e.g., use it for official travel, use it for personal travel, give it to his or her spouse, sell it, or donate it to charity). NDAA FY 2002, P.L. 107- 107, Section 1116.
B. However, no upgrade may be accepted if it is provided on the basis of the employee’s grade or position. 5 C.F.R. 2635.202.
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XIV. UPGRADES ON OFFICIAL TRAVEL -- BUYING THEM WITH YOUR PERSONAL FUNDS OR PERSONAL FREQUENT FLYER MILES.
A. Upgrades with personal funds. Federal employees may use their personal funds to upgrade to first class or business class while on official travel. See note to 41 CFR Sec. 301-10.123 Upgrades with personal frequent flyer miles. Federal employees may use their personal frequent flyer bonuses to upgrade to first class or business class while on official travel. See note 41 CFR Section 301.123, Air Force Instruction 24-101, Passenger Movement, 27 Oct 04, para. 3.30, states in relevant part: “Air Force personnel when using their frequent flyer miles to upgrade to business or first class shall not wear a uniform or allow a rank or grade to be associated with an upgrade.” Therefore, if the Air Force member is unable to change into civilian clothes before boarding the aircraft, (s)he should not upgrade.
B. SECARMY Travel Policy (Army Directive 2007-01), Jan. 25, 2007, section 4.C., allows for wear of uniform in this circumstance.
 
I've found that southwest treats uniformed military (and USAFA cadets not in uniform) very well. Just show your CAC and they'll let you on with Family boarding or pre-boarding in some cases. Plus 2 free carry-ons. And service to Denver. Would highly recommend them for anyone, but especially while travelling in uniform.
 
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