University of Oklahoma: Navy or Air Force ROTC

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  1. hockeypals

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    Can anyone tell me anything about Navy or Air Force ROTC at University of Oklahoma? My son has been accepted at U of OK and is interested in ROTC. He is awaiting an admissions decision from Virginia Tech (in Corps of Cadets/ROTC), and we think he has a good chance of being accepted at Tech. We are very aware of the benefits of Tech's Corps of Cadets, but we don't know very much about the ROTC program at U of OK. He originally was interested in aeronautical engineering, but lately has become fascinated with the meteorology program at Oklahoma. He just got his private pilot's license and would like to fly in the military if at all possible (he understands this is not a sure thing if he goes into the Air Force or Navy). The only thing we know for sure is that the U of OK detachments are smaller, and that Active Duty is not guaranteed the way it is at Tech. Any other information or perspective would be helpful.
     
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    I don't have any information on the Navy but my daughter is in the AFROTC at OU and loves it there. If you have any specific questions let me know and I will ask her
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  3. hockeypals

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    Thank you! My son in particular wants to know more about career prospects for this particular Air Force ROTC detachment. He has read on the AFROTC website about the activities the group participates in, which he thought sounded like fun.

    He would like to know:
    - what percentage of cadets get commissioned (i.e., what percentage of cadets actually go active duty that want to), and
    - what percentage of them get the billets they want upon graduation, in particular, how many get flight assignments that want them.

    I would like to know how much time ROTC takes in addition to regular studies, and if the detachment takes the academics seriously. (For example, at VA Tech, they have someone meet with you and check your grades weekly during freshman year, and get you tutoring help if you are falling behind.). Also, do the cadets get to be good friends and support one another? Since it is a big school, it would help if there was a close knit group of people that you can count on. Do the cadets room together in the dorms?

    What does your daughter like most about it? Anything that you could tell us that is in addition to what's on the website would be helpful. Thank you!!
     
  4. Pima

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    A little off topic, but felt two things impact every cadet regardless of schools.

    1. At this time, every AFROTC contracted cadet goes AD. The AFROTC system is not like AROTC. You do not have the option of AD, Reserves or Guard.

    It doesn't matter where you attend college.

    2. AFSC (career billets) are determined from a nationalistic approach. In other words, he will go up against every Cadet at VT, ERAU, UCLA, etc., for the Class of 15 in 2014 (AFSC boards meet when they are jrs).

    That being stated...the board looks at the cadet like they do for scholarships...gpa, AFOQT(HS = SAT), PFT, career path, det jobs and involvement, plus LOR. Sound sim to the scholarship situation?

    Finally, although my child is not at Oklahoma, the one thing I have noticed is that larger schools tend to have closer relationships with other ROTC cadets than smaller schools.

    This may occur for a multiple amount of reasons, but here are my guesstimates:

    1. They are probably larger dets, which gives them more people to "click" with, compared to a smaller det.
    2. The larger dets usually have military fraternities, such as AAS and Honor Guard to socialize with which means more people to mesh with socially.
    3. The larger dets traditionally due alot more community service hours...i.e. cleaning up the FB stadium, Dining In/Outs, charitable things..i.e. at our DS's det they do the Susan G. Kohlman run, and it mandatory.
    4. Some colleges have specific dorms for the ROTC cadets...i.e. VT.

    VT is also very successful at getting their cadets their top choices because they are 1 of only 7 colleges in the nation that have a Corp of Cadets. If they are a member of CoC this also will be shown on their resume for the AFSC board.

    The things to actually ask, is how many cadets have jobs in the det? What was the avg gpa for the cadets to get SFT or AFSC 1st pick?

    This goes back to the fact that some dets are so large, that cadets don't get jobs, thus their resume is thin compared to others.

    The gpa also will give you a yardstick of how fierce the competition is within the det. AFROTC may allow him to keep his scholarship with a 3.0 (or whatever it is now), but if the cadets getting their 1st picks have 3.4, than they need to keep it at that level.

    Finally, there is a real easy way to find out his billet chances, ask the det. for not the number of cadets who got it, but the %. ERAU gets the second most pilot slots after the AFA, however, statistically they are @10% less than VT cadets. The number should not matter, the % should.

    And no, our DS is not at VT. I was just illustrating them since you had asked about OK compared to VT.

    I would also say, that one thing people forget when they select colleges that distance in the 1st yr has a great impact on a child. Kids tend to say, I won't mind not coming home until Thanksgiving, but come Oct. when everyone has left the college to go home for the 3 day weekend, their opinion quickly changes, and that can create a whole new set of issues.

    Good luck.
     
  5. hockeypals

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    Pima,
    Thanks so much for your feedback. I always learn a lot from your posts. We are new to the military arena, so we are still WAY down on the learning curve. We want to give our son as much information as possible so he will be happy with his choice.

    All of the points you made are very good, and I will have him contact the detachments to get some information about the questions you raised, which will help him make a decision.

    We are in Virginia, so I appreciate your comment about distance. Oklahoma is very far away and I have been concerned about the distance (no direct flights from any of the airports near here). He doesn’t think it will bother him to be so far away, but I’m not so sure. He has recently gotten excited about Oklahoma’s meteorology program, but prior to that he had been interested in aeronautical engineering (Tech) for months. It is very hard to know where to draw the line between giving him information and trying to influence him! I want him to be passionate about whatever he chooses, but I also want it to be a good decision from a long-term career perspective.

    In the next month or so we will be visiting both campuses (Tech for the second time, Oklahoma for the first), and we will see if he can meet with someone in the detachments to get a better feel for each. In the meantime, we’ll continue to get as much feedback as possible from those of you who have lots of experience. Thanks!!
     
  6. Pima

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    Our DD is at VT, not ROTC and she absolutely loves it there. Nick on this site is an AFROTC cadet there, class of 12 I think, so you might want to pm him to gain insight about VT.
     

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