Yes and lots of unprofessional officers have been produced. It's a lot of fun knowing your BC is banging his E-4 secretary or your married S-1 hooking up with one of the warrants. Or a COL who's up for BG getting court martialed for criminal activities.
US Air Force Academy brawl injures 23
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Yes and lots of unprofessional officers have been produced. It's a lot of fun knowing your BC is banging his E-4 secretary or your married S-1 hooking up with one of the warrants. Or a COL who's up for BG getting court martialed for criminal activities.
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There is biting in boxing (think Mike Tyson).
I saw Holyfield as a ski resort in Maine while I was at CGA. He had his ear covered with his hat.
I feel no need to push what academy I went to but I wear the ring! By the way who says I got out? You know what they say when you assume.
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Must have been that snow ball fight from way back when!!! Snow ball fights are always producing adulterers.
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That's true, it was an assumption on my part.
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Maybe tradition should just be outlawed at USAFA. I mean, is it even old enough to have traditions?
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You mean Medical Turnback Ball?
This is the least professional thing future officers could be doing. It's offensive to me, as a taxpayer (and lets not forget, everything I'm paid is taxed!)
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Getting rid of traditions is the only tradition left.
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It's the only kind I like. Maybe USAFA will end the tradition of wearing uniforms? I believe the USAF tried that awhile back....
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Bullet was ADAF not a cadet.
He wasn't doing jailhouse medicine. He took aspirin. He went to the flt doc when it was at a point that he needed a doc. Resetting his toe by himself would do only one thing... guaranteeing he would not go DNIF
Not saying I approved of his decision, just saying he was the norm in the flying world.
I have to ask have you hung with any ADAF flier? IMPO I don't think you have because if you did you would know/understand their fear every time they go to a flt doc. It can open a can of worms.
FYI, fliers are anal about meds. Bullet didn't even use AFRIN, wouldn't take Advil. Aspirin and aspirin alone is all he ever took.
As others have stated, 27 were injured out of 4000 cadets. Seriously, what is that statistically? Not even 1%.
Come on, do you honestly believe a tradition should be ended because 7 cadets per yr group out of 1000 were injured, but not medically turned back?
He wasn't doing jailhouse medicine. He took aspirin. He went to the flt doc when it was at a point that he needed a doc. Resetting his toe by himself would do only one thing... guaranteeing he would not go DNIF
Not saying I approved of his decision, just saying he was the norm in the flying world.
I have to ask have you hung with any ADAF flier? IMPO I don't think you have because if you did you would know/understand their fear every time they go to a flt doc. It can open a can of worms.
FYI, fliers are anal about meds. Bullet didn't even use AFRIN, wouldn't take Advil. Aspirin and aspirin alone is all he ever took.
As others have stated, 27 were injured out of 4000 cadets. Seriously, what is that statistically? Not even 1%.
Come on, do you honestly believe a tradition should be ended because 7 cadets per yr group out of 1000 were injured, but not medically turned back?
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He said he doesn't want it to end, just to be closely supervised with ORM checklists, spotters, water breaks, and reflective belts.
This is a totally spontaneous event that happens at around 8 or 9 at night on the day of the first snow, for those of you who have not participated. I don't see how it can ever be regulated short of being outlawed.
Sounds like football should be ended at the academies. Way to expensive for the taxpayers and we sholdn't be letting these young adults make decisions on what to do. They don't have enough experience to realize the implications.
That's a real good point. Didn't some Admiral try to end that too? What is going on in this country? Should we just keep giving participation trophies thru HS and College? For God's sake, these are kids that will be going in harms way.
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or maybe the "National Defense Medal?"
Well, the Air Force does give out a ribbon for officers who go to a school. Wow.
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Yes, that tradition was in peril, but thank goodness it is back. Probably a whole thread on that several years ago. The truth is that these kids are going to find a way to blow off steam. At USNA they like to get their racks down and found a way to body surf on them during the dark ages. My DS's friend broke his jaw doing that. DS also had teeth marks on his forehead after a mid flew into him playing flag football. He is none the worse for wear. DD has applied to USAFA so I will have to warn her that if she gets in she is to not particiapate in these traditions.....NOT! 
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Is this the same commandant that banned situps in the hall because a kid banged his head on the wall and got a concussion?
The cadets have little confidence that there is a way he will regulate the tradition to something that has any meaning to them at all.
Skiing, WWRafting should certainly be banned, and I believe they lost a grad 2 years ago during his 60 days that had his license and was flying on his own in Texas. The air force should certainly ban flying, it's just too darned dangerous!
Is this the same commandant that banned situps in the hall because a kid banged his head on the wall and got a concussion?
The cadets have little confidence that there is a way he will regulate the tradition to something that has any meaning to them at all.
Skiing, WWRafting should certainly be banned, and I believe they lost a grad 2 years ago during his 60 days that had his license and was flying on his own in Texas. The air force should certainly ban flying, it's just too darned dangerous!
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A Basic Cadet did that to himself on purpose the summer I worked BCT... his parents wouldn't let him come home if he just quit, but would still accept him if he was "injured" and medically turned back. Kid slammed his head on the wall/floor until he got a concussion and walked around with a huge grin on his face until the day he outprocessed.
Oh memories...
But they seriously banned situps in the hall?