US, and Iran

C/B Lattanzio

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Hey all, I know I'm opening up a can of worms, but does anyone think in the near future that there will be conflict between us and Iran anytime soon?
 
Do you mean a full scale war i.e- ground invasion/occupation, etc. or more of the same shadowy conflict we have today?
 
Inm talking about Full on, boots on the ground, 5th fleet involvement.
Also, we've had this dammed shadow conflict for the last 30 years.
 
Inm talking about Full on, boots on the ground, 5th fleet involvement.
Also, we've had this dammed shadow conflict for the last 30 years.

Highly Unlikely. I doubt we will occupy anyone anytime soon. There are many options short of that that we and our allies can bring to bear.
 
Highly Unlikely. I doubt we will occupy anyone anytime soon. There are many options short of that that we and our allies can bring to bear.

Agreed. The majority of the population in Iran does not support their government. I would be willing to bet that our government would rather wait for them to cause change from within before sending an invasion force.

with that being said, we may be forced to join in the larger conflict if Israel gets itself into a war against the rest of the middle east.
 
"But in my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should 'have his head examined,' as General MacArthur so delicately put it."


United States Military Academy (West Point, NY)
As Delivered by Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates, West Point, NY, Friday, February 25, 2011
 
"But in my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should 'have his head examined,' as General MacArthur so delicately put it."


United States Military Academy (West Point, NY)
As Delivered by Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates, West Point, NY, Friday, February 25, 2011

Gates wasn't always right. It's easy to doom the guys who take over your job as you're leaving.

That said, is it safe to assume Gates is ok with sending a "big American land army" into Europe, South America, Australia, Antarctica and the rest of North America? Only Asia (with the Middle East) and Africa are off limits.
 
http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=1539

If you read through the speech (and remember this was to future Army officers) I think you'll see that my short exerpt was a distillation of a discussion about the changing nature of warfare. With budget constraints and what not, US military forces will be smaller, lighter, faster, and smarter. So no, he seems not ok with sending a big land force anywhere. But he was certainly okay with establishing a new Marine base in Australia.

Many folks forget the fact that Donald Rumsfeld had the exact same prescription and had begun major restructuring prior to 9/11. Remember lily pads: using many light footprints around the globe to project and protect US interests. Iraq and Afghanistan only delayed the inevitable.

I watched the speech on C-Span with keen interest, because it was at about that time that my son committed himself to AROTC.
 
Agreed. The majority of the population in Iran does not support their government. I would be willing to bet that our government would rather wait for them to cause change from within before sending an invasion force.

with that being said, we may be forced to join in the larger conflict if Israel gets itself into a war against the rest of the middle east.

I agree...
 
I honestly don't think it would even be possible to fund any near future "expeditions", let alone a war! To begin with, I'm not sure how well going to war with Iran would roll over with the American populace; frankly I don't think Washington has the time, nor money to support a war.

And also ... to even think about invading Iran - a whole lot of logistics (especially if you're talking ground invasion) -- so much more than Iraq. The distance to get to Tehran is significantly longer than when we drove into Baghdad.

... all in all; it would cost WAY TOO MUCH money ...
 
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