USAFA Cadets Being Affected by Budget Cuts

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Yes sir.
 
in order to get to 4000 next year, based on the numbers i've heard, they could only admit about 500 cadet for the class of 2015. I don't think they would do that, because then come fall 2014 they would be far below 4000. I guess another to say it is i didn't see 1300 to 1000 as "immediate", although it is quite close. Plus, if they only admitted 500, then that class would be hurting later on down the road when they get to FGOs and beyond
 
@eagle36,

The numbers I have heard is that the academy will admit 1120 this year and 1050 the next two years. Admitting 500 cadets would only yield a class of about 400 officers! Additionally you could not field sports teams or meet congressional mandates. Given that each class will be reduced by about 200-300 cadets via attrition by graduation, then by the class of 2015 will be about 900+ strong come graduation and with the classes of 2016 and 2017 coming in at about that number - the Air Force Academy will meet the 4000 cadet number in three years and still field sports teams and meet congressional mandates.
 
yes, i agree, and that's why i had said it won't be an immediate cut, but rather one slightly over time. we are on the same page
 
I think for candidates that are seeing a 200 cut from last yr for this year, they will see that as drastic, especially since the following yr will only decrease by another 70 from ty. If you look at it from the 15 candidates perspective, over 3 yrs @340 will be cut, the avg would be @113 a yr. Yet 15 is taking the brunt now.

It all comes down to perspective. When you are in the fight every blow hurts. When you are watching it from outside the ring it doesn't seem as bad as it looks.

Let's also admit that if the economy doesn't improve in the next few yrs and grads don't dive at 5 or 8 or 10, they may have to re-address the issue again re: RIF or SA numbers, the way to tell will always be watch ROTC and OTC. They always get hit 1st.

There was no July OTC board for non-rated last yr. It was delayed to last month. ROTC selected the lowest amount of SFT cadets from a historical standpoint for ly. The writing was on the wall that 12 and 13 were just too big in size for AFAD manpower to absorb them when they got commissioned. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the AF was doing everything possible to cut everywhere before attacking the AFA. It just happened to be that at the end of the day, they couldn't scrape up enough to not approach the issue with the amount of cadets at the AFA.

OBTW, JMPO, but you could have also seen the RIF coming before the announcement...the minute they separate AFA grads who bust out of UPT, is a big sign. In good times, they will wash them back, they will convert them to a new career field. In bad times, they thank them for their service and cut them loose. It makes fiscal sense.
 
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What is feeling on whether reducton would be come from predominantly prep school (athletes and/or diversity candidates), from direct (HS) admissions, prior enlisted etc. Seems if going to have a significant reduction in next couple of years one of two things will happen 1) sports teams will suffer (my vote since advertising not in-line with overall SA objective), or 2) percentage of qualified candidates (primarily academic/leadership based) increases. Does not seem like can have both. Also, seems that this may force focus on diversity to be secondary or teritiary. Any thoughts relative to impact in next three years.
 
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