Use Service Academy CFA in place of ROTC PFA?

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  1. Shiba1942

    Shiba1942 Member

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    I took the Service Academy CFA and sent those scores to USMA about 3 weeks ago. Is it possible to have those scores forwarded to Cadet Command and used in place of the Army ROTC PFT?
     
  2. jackiejyp7

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    You could try! I'd say contact the Command and ask them.

    When I took my SA CFA I wrote down my scores from that day and sent in my ROTC PFA with those scores same day.
     
  3. kinnem

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  4. Pima

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    I don't know why you would since the CFA is different, starting with the fact that the PFA does not include a ball throw, and if I recall correctly, there is no shuttle and the run distance is different.
     
  5. Packer

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    Your recollection matches mine. If you want this do what they ask. DS did four different fitness tests, CFA, PFE for USCGA, pfa for AFROTC and AROTC. All have similar elements but all are different.
     
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    The CFA pushups and modified sit-ups are timed for 2 min ea, whereas the PFA pushups and curl-ups are timed for 1 min ea. The PFA also has a scorecard that has to be signed & dated by your test administrator. My DS, like Packer's, did both by two different administrators. It may seem easier to submit CFA scores for the PFA, but it won't be accurate. I suggest you follow the instructions and take the PFA for ROTC. You can share your CFA results with the other SAs, if you've applied to them.
     
  7. Pima

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    I thought that was what it was, but you know every yr they tweak things.

    I was 2nd guessing myself, thinking maybe ROTC and SA were finally using the same system.

    For the OP you can submit it, but in the end your PFA will be incomplete since they will not accept the CFA.

    I would get this done ASAP. There is a limited pot of gold (money), and. the boards have already started to give scholarships, and are meeting again this week with more money going out the door. Everyday you wait to submit a completed file means the further down the queue you will be and the less money left in the pot to be awarded.

    Remember AROTC is tied to the school and the cadet. It maybe a national pool, but it is centric too since schools play into the equation.
     
  8. HydroJim

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    Take the PFA. On my CFA, I did 54 push ups in 2 minutes. On my PFA, I did 54 push ups in 1 minute. The CFA is much more difficult and will dramatically reduce your scores.
     
  9. Pima

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    In years past there was no option of submitting the CFA for the PFA. IOWs they will not accept the CFA for the application. It is not the candidates choice, they must do the PFA to be boarded. Maybe this year there is the option. If so than take the PFA and submit whichever is better. However, this late in the game and it being posted for the first time, my bet is it is still the old system. CFA for SAS AND PFA FOR ROTC. ROTC Won't accept the CFA And SAs don't accept the PFA.


    Welcome to the world of following directions to a T.
     
  10. Shiba1942

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    Thanks for the replies. I'll take the PFA then. I originally thought their might be a conversion factor used (like SAT and ACT tests), but I guess I'm wrong. Only reason I asked was because I saw some archived posts that did the same thing, might save some time. Oh well, after the CFA, should be a piece of cake.

    Rest assured, rest of the app is complete. I realize I'm a bit late, bit wrapped up in deciding which colleges I ultimately wanted to apply to and the service academy apps. But even if I don't get a 4-year scholarship, hopefully I can try for a campus based one and still commission as an officer. Best case scenario though is that my medical issues clear up and I get an appointment to an academy. :redface:

    But thanks again for the help.
     
  11. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    Not trying to flame you PIMA, but in the 10 years I've been doing this Cadet Command has always accepted the CFA in lieu of the PFT. I still recommend taking the PFT though as all the previous posters have recommended.

    Kinnem...thanks for posting the link to my blog article.
     
  12. Pima

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    No offense taken...that's why I said if memory...

    Plus, usually I caveat it with AFROTC because many candidates assume that all ROTC applications work the same. I know that when our DS did it, they would not accept the CFA for the PFA, mainly due to the run difference. Even if they did I think it is still better to take the 20 minutes and do just the PFA since a run time might be better for a shorter distance.

    Have a great day!
     

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