USMA v. USNA Forbes Ranking

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  1. LJM

    LJM Member

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    Does anyone on these forums have any insight into the fairly large disparity in rankings between these two schools (Forbes rankings)? West Point is ranked 7th, among the likes of Harvard, Columbia, Williams, and MIT, whereas Navy is ranked 28th---much closer to U of M and UVA. All of the schools I mentioned are fantastic, but no one in their right mind comes close to seeing Harvard and UVA as peer institutions... Thoughts?

    Not trying to provoke any Navy fans, just genuinely curious.
     
  2. time2

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    College rankings are mostly good to help sell newspapers and magazines. There tend to be very arbitrary based on whatever 'criteria' they choose to focus on. You can probably search around and find several older threads on the topic of college rankings.

    I certainly wouldn't recommending choosing/not choosing a particular college based on that. What mattters is the criteria the applicant considers important.
     
  3. SuaSponte

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    I know some people that would pick UVA over Harvard as well as quite a few who choose USNA over USMA. I really doubt there is any significant disparity between the schools, if there was you would probably see West Point becoming more selective or getting better applicants.
     
  4. bruno

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    Absolutely lots of people in their right mind think that UVA is a peer of Harvard. If you take this or any other College ranking list as anything other than a subjective opinion you are making a mistake. Take a look at some of Forbes Criteria. Do you really think they are all that objective? 22% of the survey is based on "Student Satisfaction" as found on Rate- my- Professor? Are you kidding me? And since I have a hard time imagining that student debt load, graduation rate and post graduate success are very much different, it seems likely that in this case the difference between USMA's ranking and USNA, USAFA and USCGA are the result of USMA having a lot more Rhodes Scholars and "Rate -My Professor". That seems a pretty flawed way to decide which Academy you want to go to. A far better way would be to decide- " Do I want to be a Navy, AirForce, Marine, Coast Guard or Army Officer?"
    Here is Forbes criteria:

     
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  5. tug_boat

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    College ranking

    Well it all depends on who you enjoy reading. Princeton Review has their own opinion and so does US Newsweekly publishes their own ranking. I feel folks will gravitate to the periodical that ranks their favorite higher than their rival.

    What I get a kick out of reading these stats is the ACT/SAT scores, acceptance rate and graduation rate. Some schools had a 80% acceptance to 3% graduation rate.

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  6. bpu

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    +1 / +2 to above posts.

    Also makes complete sense to me. West Point is much closer than USNA to Columbia, Harvard, & MIT and USNA is much closer than WP to U of M (assume Maryland and not Minnesota) and UVA.
     
  7. StayingPositive

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    The Forbes ranking is based off of a all-around college/university. And it would make sense that West Point is ranked higher because it does have a lot more college majors than Navy. If you want a ranking based sheerly off of academics, go look at US News Weekly ranking. It's also very famous and reliable. They have Navy ranked #12 and West Point ranked #18. Their ranking also includes Ivy colleges like Harvard Princeton etc.


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