USMAPS eligible?

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  1. Lacroix01

    Lacroix01 Member

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    Hi ,

    I am a Junior and I am applying to WP and I took my standardized tests and they are on the lower end of the scores most candidates usually get. My question is if my scores aren't that great and I apply to WP do I have a better chance of getting in to USMAPS or is that for students that should have made the USMA but didn't? Also , I understand that lots of recruited athletes and enlisted soldiers go to USMAPS before USMA and there are only a certain number of slots for civilians. I will retake my scores in the fall of my senior year.

    ACT : SAT:
    Math-25 Math-600
    English-22 CR-540
    Science-24 Writing-440 , essay score of 7
    Reading-21
    Eng/Writing-21 , essay score of 7

    ACT Comp-23
    SAT Comp - 1580
    Also, I do have lots of leadership positions in and out of school. I am the president of an engineering club , historian of our FBLA chapter , attending NC Boys State , Power Co-op youth tour at D.C., and interning at my local congressman's office. I know that USMAPS takes students that are weak in certain subjects.

    Thanks
     
  2. leafygreen

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    @Lacroix01 : I'm sure there are more versed people on the board to address this, but no one has answered yet so I thought I'd chime in as I'm no expert.

    From my understanding, you do not apply to USMAPS. You apply to USMA and there are tons of factors with applying to an Academy. There is USMAPS at West Point- about 240 spots and Civil Prep about 50-60 spots. Those chosen for either way of prep is done by admissions from files presented from different areas such as athletics, etc and then hand chosen by the board from applicants to USMA. I'm not sure how files are chosen exactly for USMAPS or Civil Prep.

    For Civil Prep, the AOG (Associate of Graduates) pays for 1/3, West Point pays 1/3 and then you are responsible for 1/3 of the cost of tuition with this route. As for actual USMA Prep on campus, this seems to mostly have recruited athletes and enlisted persons and there are only about 240 spaces for this route. I'm unsure how Civil Prep vs Prep on campus is chosen between candidates, however after this fact.

    I would say to work on your academics and raising your GPA #1 as high as you can, take AP and Rigor classes. Work on raising your ACT (30+/each section) and SAT scores (600+ each section). Boys State is great. Be sure you have community service hours! Sounds like you have a good bit to add to your resume, but you can always one-up yourself.

    Good luck!
     
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  3. MemberLG

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    USMAPS are for athletes, soldiers, and diversity candidates and academically disqualified.

    Civil Prep are usually QNS (qualified but not select).
     
  4. USMA19DAD

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    My son is USMA Class of 19. He was told during the application process that he did not qualify for prep school because he was already taking AP physics and AP calculus, etc and that the prep schools were for those who were otherwise qualified but not academically ready. This was told to us directly by an USNA admissions counselor. It appears that athletes are the ones that usually get these spots.
     
  5. Islandmom4

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    My daughter is graduating with 7 AP classes in a top 10 HS in the country. Medically qualified and passed cfa. Only "low" is a 630 math score. She is going to NAPs this year. We don't know why, but are happy and grateful.
     
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    My son would have taken NAPS in a heartbeat. You should be thrilled.
     
  7. MJP

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    Islandmon-
    She's going to NAPS because the Navy wants her and wants her to succeeed! That would be reason enough to go!
    Good luck to her and 2020 has a nice ring to it anyway.
     
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  8. time2

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    You don't apply to USMAPS (or NAPS), you apply to WP (or USNA) and they make that determination. There has been endless debate in the past about exactly who gets sents to USMAPS/NAPS, but one category are those who are only 2Q and missing the Q for scholastic achievement. At times, h.s. varsity athletes may spend so much time on their sports that their academice performance suffers (and has nothing to do with playing a sport at the academy). There are also cases where one does poorly on SAT/ACT tests but has a very high class ranking, which could indicated a lack of academic rigor at their h.s. Those individuals can benefit from an extra year of academic work. You can search back on older posts on this topic to read more about the debate relating to recruited athletes.
     
  9. banjoppd

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    What is Civil Prep?
    Is that self prep at MMI and NMMI?
     
  10. MemberLG

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    Civil Prep usually means two things, (1) private or public prepartory school or junior college that gets students ready for college or (2) a scholarship offered by SAs (technically it's the alumni organization that offers the scholarship) to fully qualified but not selected candidates with assurance that if they successfully complete a year at a designated prep school they will get offered an appointment.

    Self Prep usually means attending a prep school without a scholarship from a SA.

    So Candidate A attending MMI with a scholarship from a SA will be considered a "civil prep." Candidate B attending MMI with no scholarship from a SA will be considered "self prep."
     

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