USNA Mid charged in incident

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  1. Luigi59

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    USNA Mid charged in incident
    Published 12/02/10

    A U.S. Naval Academy Midshipman apparently was involved in what police are calling a burglary incident at a home off Forest Drive early this morning.

    The owner of the home woke to noise in the rear of his home on Regent Street at 1:05 a.m. and found a man outside his upstairs deck. The man proceeded to kick in the man's sliding glass door and then entered the house, police said.

    Police arrived to find the man in the woods behind the home. He had a bloody nose.

    Police took the man, identified as Michael Christopher Guadagnini, 22, Class of 2011, into custody and the homeowner identified him as the culprit. He was released to the Naval Academy duty officer.

    Guadagnini, a star baseball player, is the son of Rear Admiral Mark Guadagnini, and his brother, grandfather and an uncle also attended the Naval Academy.

    A statement of charges was filed to the District Court Commissioner's Office, but details of that report were not available this morning.

    Damage to the door was estimated at $1,000.
     
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    Open an extra slot for the 2015 class! :wink:
     
  3. Luigi59

    Luigi59 Banned

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    That a Mid (or Cadet) at any of the academies commits a crime like this is a big enough deal, but I think the real story is why was he released to the duty officer and why haven't the charges been made public?

    Will his status as a star baseball player (and yes, this Mid is probably the best hitter in the entire Patriot League) or being the son of an Admiral play a part in his retention at USNA, or will he be disenrolled as most any other non D-1 athlete or non Admiral's son would be.
     
  4. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    I guess what I'd want to see is:

    a. Charges (ultimately, not just what's speculated in the news)
    b. Trial
    c. Verdict


    THEN and ONLY if convicted, I want to see penal justice take its course. Until then...while it looks, smells, and swims like a fish...perhaps its not a fish.

    NONE of us know.

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    Added later

    I read the online Baltimore Sun...they're saying the homeowner reported a burglary...the guy confronted the mid'n...said he smelled of alcohol...etc...etc..."

    So I immediately wonder if he was just drunk and stupid...rather than actually attempting a burglary...time will tell.

    Steve
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    This was the night of Service Selection for the Class of 2011. Not to make any excuses for his actions, but I would be looking for some numbers on his BA content.
     
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    bruno Retired Staff Member

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    Well put Flieger.
    I'm certain that the original poster meant to phrase this "IF HE IS FOUND GUILTY of attempted burglary as opposed to say- drunk and disorderly conduct" what will happen? And since we don't really have the benefit of a Chrystal ball- there is probably zero value in speculating. I wouldn't think that any member of this forum would want to prejudge the facts of the case, especially based on a newspaper story- unless of course they are mostly interested in pursuing a vendetta against USNA, its administration and its midshipmen. (In which case they probably have no real business continuing as a member of this forum as their ability to provide balanced judgement and guidance would certainly be called into question wouldn't you say? )
    I wouldn't want to prejudge anyone's motives here - although it does seem like a pattern on the part of some posters to troll the internet looking for any derogatory information that they can find about one particular academy. Sort of looks and smells like a vendetta - but as you say Flieger-appearances can be deceiving and it might not actually be one.
    Just my observation.
     
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    I would say - yes.

    That said..... SOMETHING happened. Time will tell.
    The article must have been recently revised - it now says TWO midshipmen were involved:
    This is not the real story nor even a story. Charges are not always brought up immediately - law enforcement needs to conduct an investigation, consult with the DA and decide on the charges. Haven't you ever watched Law and Order?

    The fact that one midshipman involved is a baseball player and the son of an Admiral means nothing .... other than even baseball players and Admiral's sons do stupid things.
     
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    I guess you missed this part of the story:

    Law and Order has nothing on the Annapolis PD and the AA Co Court System.
     
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    Without knowing all the circumstances/details there is no way of determining what actually happened. Wasn't it just last year that another USNA athlete accidentally smoked pot because one of his friends sneaked the pot into a blunt? Could be another misunderstanding like that one. We should wait for all the facts before passing judgement and hope that if it was his friends fault that they are civilians. :cool:
     
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    Or we could ignore it and sweep it under the rug
    This section is called "Academy/Military News" isn't it? I didn't make it up.
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM

    B&E on the first and probably Criminal Mischief (with or without public intoxication if they tested them) on the first and second. Released on recognisance to another authority. Probably one or both could be a killer before a board. I understand that the storys were from police reports.
     
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    Yea, that's the weird thing - 2 completely separate incidents on the same night, where 2 completely different Mids were arrested for ALLEGEDLY kicking in/breaking windows/doors at nearby Annapolis residences.

    From Baltimore Sun:

    Two Naval Academy midshipmen, one of them the son of an admiral and on the academy baseball team, were detained early Wednesday in what Annapolis police said were unrelated property damage incidents.

    Baker also said that a resident of the first block of Cornhill Street reported at about 12:45 a.m. that someone had broken a window of that home. An officer saw a man walking through a gate at the rear of the property who had cuts on his hands. Police found a uniform hat and ribbons by the broken window, and the owner then identified the man who was apprehended, Baker said. A charge was pending against William Jacob Johnson, 22, also a midshipman, he said.​
     
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    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    It's not at all uncommon with charges such as this for the accused to be released on his/her own recognizance. When that person is in the military, the local police typically call the duty officer for the unit, who then has to pick up the individual. I had to do it more than once when I was the DO. Not unusual.

    And, had this person not been a mid, the story wouldn't have made more than the local weekly paper as a two-line item.

    I hope for the sake of the young men involved, there is more to it (in an exculpatory way) than has been released to the press. It's not a great way to start one's military career . . .
     
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    You think if this is true that it is a "start" to their military careers?
     
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    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Obviously, we need to see what the facts show. However, even if there are no charges or even if it is determined they did nothing wrong, they are still left with the negative publicity. That alone isn't a great way to start one's career.
     
  17. Maximus

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    lol, unbelievable how biased this-forum can be!

    Thanks-for-the-link-Luigi.

    Odd.....but-then-again,-I've-been-told-here-that-the-old-guard-kids,-are-slackers...lol

    http://www.navysports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/guadagnini_mark00.html

    BTW-darn-space-key-on-the-3-month-old-Toshiba-is-bad...sorry..service-tomorrow...:redface:
     
  18. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    If you're suggesting that we're biased in favor of the military, that's true. If you're suggesting that, whether we are USNA grads or not, the story is disheartening and that most of us don't take pleasure in it, that's also true.

    I would feel the same way if the individuals involved were from USMA, USAFA, etc. I don't revel in another's discomfiture or misery, even if it is self-inflicted.

    If it's determined the individuals committed a crime, they will (and should be) punished. If not, they should vindicated (but won't be b/c that's how things work). In any event, they -- as with anyone accused of a crime in this country -- deserve the benefit of the doubt and the presumption of innocence until the issue is resolved.

    That's not bias -- that's the way our justice system operates.
     
  19. MakeItHappen

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    A quick refresher for those who were absent that day:

    In the United States of America an individual is PRESUMED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
    It really is the best system.

    Oh, and Max that link you provided is of an individual NOT associated with the current events (see libel).
     
  20. MakeItHappen

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    Beat me to it 1985. :wink:
     
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