Validating Calculus

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  1. Roman

    Roman Member

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    I'm currently in Calc 2 at a state college. It's been a year since I've had Calc 1, and I can only remember the very basics. If I want to validate into Calc 3, will I need to review Calc 1 for a validation test or will I just be tested on Calc 2 stuff? I suspect I'll end up with a B+ in my Calc 2 class. Thank you.
     
  2. packermatt7

    packermatt7 USAFA Cadet

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    You have to take the Calc 1 and 2 validation tests during BCT. You'll be tired, you'll be exausted, and it will be difficult. I suggest studying a tad before you leave. You don't want to take 2 semesters of a class you could have validated.
     
  3. fencersmother

    fencersmother Founding Member

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    My sons took calculus at the local U while high school students. One of them validated it, one did not. Ironically, the one who validated was the one with the lower score (by just a few points) as a final grade at the local U. The twin without the validation really didn't mind. It was harder than what he'd had here.
     
  4. PDub

    PDub Prospective

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    Yes, if you feel like that you are weak on calc 1, definitely study, even if just a little, before coming to basic. I have heard of people being placed in pre-calc because they scored so poorly on the validation tests.
     
  5. kirbinator

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    Just curious.... what happens if you do validate math courses or any courses for that matter. I know that you just fill it with another class but, with the Academy's Baccalaureate program, what happens when you fill the grad requirements early? Extra classes? New projects?

    Basically, why would I want to validate both Calc I and II to go into Vector Calc if I am going to graduate the same (?) as someone who validates both?
     
  6. eagle36

    eagle36 USAFA Alumnus

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    1) it frees up classes. if you don't have to take calc 1 or 2, that's an entire year worth of classes you're out of

    2) you have to take 5 classes a semester. many cadets have semesters with 7 or 8 to fulfill everything, so so they had validated some they could take a more comfortable workload

    any AP tests or college courses basically have zero effect. i took AP calc in HS but not the test. During basic, i took both the calc 1 and 2 tests, and validated into calc 3. i still had a semester with 7 classes, but senior year i ended up with 5 the first semester and 6 now. much better than 6 and 7
     
  7. l Taz l

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    Definitely try to validate Calc I at least. I had never taken Calc before coming here, and I got rocked because of it (24 sessions of EI). Calc II seems to be much easier, at least that is the general consensus. I have not had the opportunity to experience the horrors of Calc III yet.....
     
  8. fencersmother

    fencersmother Founding Member

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    You'll have an opportunity to load up on other courses, maybe a few more in your major. But there is neither graduating "early" nor graduating "late" at a service academy. You graduate in four years. Or you don't graduate.
     
  9. CadCandMateus

    CadCandMateus Recent Grad

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    not entirely true. you may end up spending an extra year for various other reasons (late grad..)

    In general though, yes that is correct.
     
  10. CadCandMateus

    CadCandMateus Recent Grad

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    Not just a year more.. the time varies.
     
  11. Iron Eagle

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    If you took calc I as a junior, got an A+ in the class and a 5 on the AP Exam, and are taking Calc II as a senior and expect both an A+ and a 5 on the AP Exam, should it be pretty easy to pass the validation tests for both?

    With some studying of course.
     
  12. CadCandMateus

    CadCandMateus Recent Grad

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    so you're asking if you completely understand calc 1 and 2 and scored a perfect 5 on an advanced placement exam, will you have trouble passing a validation exam?

    i think you'll be okay
     

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