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  1. vikingfan

    vikingfan New Member

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    Hello everyone-I am new to the FORUM but LOVE it so far! My son is a senior in high school and I was just wondering what the chances are of receiving an Air Force ROTC Scholarship? Here is his info:

    3.527 GPA-AP and Honors classes taken
    29 overall ACT score

    57 pushups in a minute
    62 sit ups in a minute
    10.32 for 1.5 mile run

    -JROTC all 4 years in HS
    -Class Commander for 3 years
    -Elected Commander for all of JROTC latter part of Junior year for his Senior year (this year)
    -Played football 3 years
    -Lettered in chess first year-will play 2nd year this year
    -Referree for soccer-competitive league and high school varsity league-for 4 years
    -3rd Degree Black Belt in TaeKwonDo and many time State Champion (roughly 15-18 separate times/categories)
    -Also teach at the TKD academy
    -Volunteered three summers in a row at a hospital in Pre-Operative Care Center, Ambulatory Surgery, Lab Dept and Discharge
    -Volunteered monthly at People Serving People feeding the homeless for over a year
    -Feed My Starving Children about a dozen times
    -Key Club
    -Robotics Team in HS for three years
    -Certified Scuba Diver at age 11
    -Youth Group leader at our church
    -Habitat for Humanity-helped paint a house

    -Aquarium technician for a company, which involved setting up and servicing aquariums for various clinics, hospitals and nursing homes/assisted living agencies
    -worked with a construction company over the summer tearing down buildings

    There may be one or two more things, but this is the brunt of it. Any help/suggestions anyone has would greatly be appreciated. We have really been focused on working towards this scholarship. His major is Engineering-Mechanical or Electrical.

    Thanks again! Looking forward to hearing from everyone!
     
  2. Pima

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    Step by step.

    1. Is that ACT best sitting or superscore?
    Big difference because AFROTC does not use superscore.
    The avg type 7 for 2010 according to the AFROTC website was 28.6, type 2 was 30.1, and type 1 was 32.7

    2. The cgpa is only 1 part.
    They will look at the school profile too. Is he top 25% and the top 50% go to 4 Ivy, 25% go 4 yr, and 25% go CC. Or is he top 25%, where 5% go Ivy, 20% go 4 yr, 50% go CC and 25% go tech/job after hs?

    The cgpa is important, but they do look at the rigor of the school, to see if they hand out A's like candy.

    3. His ECS appear too be solid.

    4. What is his career field desires for the AF? Currently EE majors are not being selected for rated boards because they are deemed critical manning.

    5. Do you have plan B in place regarding how to pay for college if he decides to leave after a yr in AFROTC?

    6. Is he willing to take whatever the AF offers once he commissions?

    Take this time and talk about it, assume the bad will happen. I.E. Minot ND, not Eglin, FL.


    OBTW Mods please move this to ROTC.
     
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  3. vikingfan

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    His ACT is best sitting (overall).

    His profile-not sure where he sits-will get on that right away. I do know his school has alot of smart kids. Can you elaborate a little more on this please? I am new to all of this and trying to decipher everything.

    What about his PFA? Does that look like it needs improvement?

    What exactly do you mean that EE are not being selected for rated boards because they are deemed 'critical manning'?

    Plan B would probably be to switch schools as the school he wants to attend is too expensive (but very generous to Type 7 Scholarships-school will pay the rest).

    .....and Minot, ND is just fine with him! He says North Dakota has lots of $ and lots of job opportunities!

    We have already met with the Commander and ROTC staff of the university he wants to attend twice last year. Does that help at all??

    Thanks again!!!
     
  4. vikingfan

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    Just heard from the HS Counselor:

    Rank is 187 out of 484 which is the top 39%. About 70% of our students go to 4 year (which includes ivy league), about 20% go to 2 year.

    I'm guessing this is not good news. Does the board automatically know each school's profile? thx again
     
  5. Pima

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    Again, this thread needs to be move to ROTC forums, but for the time being I will answer your questions.

    1. I do know his school has alot of smart kids
    ~~~~The school will submit a profile, and that includes their graduates after HS plans, i.e. Ivy, 4 yr, 2 yr, etc. It will also show how many students take AP/IB, pre-reqs for AP/IB/Honors.

    2. What about his PFA? Does that look like it needs improvement?
    ~~~~His PFA is high, but I wonder if the form is correct. His run is not spectacular. Is he also doing it in order and in form?

    3. What exactly do you mean that EE are not being selected for rated boards because they are deemed 'critical manning'?
    ~~~~EE's last yr that were AFROTC cadets were not selected for rated. Their major was deemed by the AF needed in non-rated jobs that would use their major in EE. Their major played a factor in their career, do not assume because that is your major you can fly. Your 1st job is fulfilling the AF needs so they can complete their mission.

    4. Plan B would probably be to switch schools as the school he wants to attend is too expensive (but very generous to Type 7 Scholarships-school will pay the rest).

    Have you thought about how emotionally it would hurt him if he is not selected for SFT as a C200? He would have to leave as a rising jr, and who knows if the new school would accept the credits.

    Have you read Gojira's thread, and how they are in the whole for 143K?

    Plan B IMPO, should be how your family can afford him to stay at that school. Emotionally, if he is not selected it can kill him. SFT results are released @Feb/Mar. He would have to apply for transfer months before to stay on track academically.

    I am not trying to be harsh, I am just trying to make you see/understand the system.

    Plan B needs to be in place before you place the deposit.

    Xposted.

    The school will submit in their sealed transcript the school profile. They use this as a way to readjust cpas. Some schools have a 5.0, some have a 4.5, some require pre-reqs for AP, some don't, some have a 10 pt cgpa scale, some have a 7 pt. They take this info and re-work it so every applicant across the country are on the same playing field.
     
  6. vikingfan

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    How do I move this to ROTC Forums?

    2. PFA-He is not a runner, but does work out regularly-hence the numbers for his PU and SU. Would another 20 seconds faster for his run be a big plus? He tested with the Major and followed the actual form. He will retest in a few weeks and submit that.

    Plan B-thank you for the info--you are not being harsh.....you are being realistic.

    Just want to know, based on the info given, if he had a good chance (or not) of receiving a Type 7 Scholarship.
     
  7. Pima

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    You can't move it, the mods will move it for you. Just give it time, they will move it.

    I would look up the max for PFA. They never post mins, they only post max.

    The PFA is a portion of the WCS. It is a small percentage, but it is a percentage.

    I would never ever give you a chance except to say you have 0% chance if you don't apply.

    There are too many variables to give a chance. ALO rec? DoDMERB? Applicant pool.

    Sorry, but I have been in your shoes, and for me, with hindsight, it would be wrong to give a chance. It can give you false hope or it can create fear. We are not on the selection board, we don't know what they are working with. Have faith and believe.
     
  8. JMS

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    Push ups and sit ups are in 1 minute?
     
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    Yes....what are your thoughts?
     
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    Your son's PFA scores are similar to what my son's were last year. The EC's are similar to what my son's were. My son did receive a type 7 offer last year.

    Your son's gpa is a bit below the average posted but about 1/2 are below the average. Good luck.
     
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    Thank you so much for your information....we are totally in the dark as to if my son even had a chance at any sort of scholarship. I realize his GPA is not as high as it could have been.....he messed up on one of his AP classes as a Sophomore and has been working to raise it ever since.

    How is your son doing now? Would you mind sharing what your son has experienced with all of this? Again, thank you....
     
  12. Lynpar

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    Viking fan, good luck with your son! This is the best place place to learn about all things ROTC or Academy related!
    Signed Lynpar,
    A Colts Fan!
    :thumb:


    And let me say, WHEW!:zip:
     

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