VMI in-state tuition for an out of stater????

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dguts18

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My DS didn't get an ROTC scholarship. Any chances on getting in-state tuition if you are out of state? I know you can join the Virginia National Gayrs but he wants to join the Navy, not Army.
 
I think it's fairly hard to "cheat the system" to get out-of-state tuition. His best bet is honestly to probably get there and work his butt off to get an NROTC scholarship while he's there. If I'm not mistaken, you can get a sideload Navy scholarship or reapply for the national one.
 
Wasn't trying to "beat the system". Just didn't know if they offered such a thing
 
Strength and Honor said:
I think it's fairly hard to "cheat the system" to get out-of-state tuition. His best bet is honestly to probably get there and work his butt off to get an NROTC scholarship while he's there. If I'm not mistaken, you can get a sideload Navy scholarship or reapply for the national one.
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Strength & Honor: there are times, young man, where you seem to know a lot about a place you have yet to attend. While I appreciate your intense desire and energy may I suggest you only answer that which you have direct knowledge of. It will make life far easier for you at the "I".

Keep the excitement - you will need it during the 'dark ages.' Lose the lecturing tone - especially to another prospective cadets parent.

Most of the time when we 'step in it' at VMI is when we've opened our pie-hole. You'll learn.

I would agree with Dguts that your statement "cheat the system" was in-artful especially given the intended school.

Dguts18: I understand the desire to get in-state rates. We few, the Alum, are somewhat sensitive to trying to 'beat the system' - my sense is you are not trying to do so and simply trying to find a way, anyway, that DS, can afford to attend the Institute.

I no longer reside in Virginia and gasped at the too-high rates for students from out of State when my DD declared her desire to go there.

As re In state rates: I believe it is what it is.

My entire degree cost approximately $8000 for 4 years all inclusive. That was, however, when 'Rat-o-saurus' walked the earth (Dinosaur age --i.e., I am very old)

My suggestion for your DS is for HIM to call Financial Aid directly and ask if a Cadet may declare themselves a residence of Virginia by moving to the State if that helps with in-state rates for 3rd class year on. That is the only exception to the rule I can see.

Financial Aid may have some additional insight into the residency requirements such as National Guard affiliation. Ask them.
 
I can't speak specifically to VMI, however, two years ago when we were looking at colleges, we considered two public Virginia institutions: Virginia Tech and Mary Washington. Both schools offered scholarships for out-of-state students that effectively brought tuition down to in-state levels, provided that the academic rankings were sufficiently high. VMI may have a similar program.
 
It's a really difficult predicament. DS is interested in an SMC. We live in Texas. In my head, VMI, etc, are in price competition with TAMU. He really wants to do sports in college (and isn't good enough to be recruited by a Texas div I school), but if scholarships from ROTC or merit aid from out--of-state schools does not bring the cost of an out-of-state school down to at least a ballpark of what we'd pay for A&M, I'm going to have to break his heart a little bit. I have no doubt about the quality education these institutions provide, but I just cannot see paying $200K for 4 years on a swim team or 4 years in a particular corps of cadets. Sincerely hoping that this doesn't happen to us.

Wish you & your son all the best as you make your choices.

RR
 
Same predicament

We're in CA and DS visited Norwich (liked it) and we're heading to the Citadel next week during his spring break. He's very excited about the visit (as am I), he has great credentials, is a very talented wrestler (but like you said, not Div. 1 but possibly II or III), so he's a smart kid, very strong physically, sea cadet for 3 years, senior class officer, etc. etc....but we too can get the JCAP at TAMU and pay in-state and Norwich is also fairly open to some off-sets. I struggle to keep positive on the Citadel (and VMI), but we have nothing remotely similar in California (Cal Maritime is just not the same - with all due respect), so that inner fear is if my DS absolutely loves the two other SMC's, I am going to have one of those "heart to heart" talks about tuition if there's no scholarship or merit awards.
 
I heard of a fellow alum from VMI getting a "legacy" rate for his daughter to attend VMI at in-state tuition from out of state--Not sure whether that's true or not--heard it second/third hand....
 
A whole bunch of my classmates that would like to have heard of that option including me. I wouldn't bet on this rumor being true.
 
Crazy question

In regards to the in-state tuition topic...and again, just a thought that others must have. Can my DS at some point over his 4yrs in VA or SC establish residency and be considered for in state rates, even if it were to be his remaining 2 years? Have others tried this and it's far too difficult or?

Thx....
 
SGTLee said:
In regards to the in-state tuition topic...and again, just a thought that others must have. Can my DS at some point over his 4yrs in VA or SC establish residency and be considered for in state rates, even if it were to be his remaining 2 years? Have others tried this and it's far too difficult or?

Thx....
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I don't think that is going to work.
You can look at the link here but I think that living in Virginia as a student does not qualify as residence, and even if you were to file as an emancipated minor he would have to live in Virginia for a full year prior to attempting to establish in state residency- and you would have to prove that he is no longer a dependent and receives no support from his out of state parents.
"Residence in the Commonwealth for the purposes of obtaining an education does not qualify a cadet for Virginia residency status. "
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http://www.vmi.edu/Content.aspx?id=9187
 
Follow-up

I understand their policy so to speak. Having lived in several states for work and at times continuing my education, I remember establishing residency and it wasn't overly difficult securing a DL, voter registration, etc. Granted, I worked and paid taxes on income within that state. My DS (I assume like most) would be 18 + years old if/when attending these schools and could eventually secure a part time job, change his DL, etc. and literally be an in state resident over time. On the flip side, I guess if this were do-able, someone would have set-up a commune of sorts to house adult students and facilitate their residency :) (kidding). Thank you for the feedback.
 
SGTLee,
I'd definitely recommend the summer job, DL, etc. Don't know if that will work, but it's worth a shot. With out of state costs sky-high, it's almost worth buying a small lake house in VA to get residency!
 
SGTLee said:
Same predicament

We're in CA and DS visited Norwich (liked it) and we're heading to the Citadel next week during his spring break. He's very excited about the visit (as am I), he has great credentials, is a very talented wrestler (but like you said, not Div. 1 but possibly II or III), so he's a smart kid, very strong physically, sea cadet for 3 years, senior class officer, etc. etc....but we too can get the JCAP at TAMU and pay in-state and Norwich is also fairly open to some off-sets. I struggle to keep positive on the Citadel (and VMI), but we have nothing remotely similar in California (Cal Maritime is just not the same - with all due respect), so that inner fear is if my DS absolutely loves the two other SMC's, I am going to have one of those "heart to heart" talks about tuition if there's no scholarship or merit awards.
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What is the JCAP at TAMU?
 
My son is a 2nd Classman at VMI, we are out of state and yes, the cost is insane. Thankfully, my DS received a 3 year AROTC scholarship, so year one was difficult, but the last 3 aren't bad as he takes a loan for part of room and board and we pick up what is left.

Now, his first year he did get financial aid from VMI bringing costs down to something similar to in state rates. I don't recall this being a scholarship but I think it was more need based on FASFA etc. Honestly, I am not 100% certain. I would recommend calling and asking what financial aid may be available. If I remember there were also some scholarships listed on the website that had certain stipulations. Mine did not qualify for any at that time, but doesn't mean yours won't. You could also contact the local alumni association and see if they are aware of any scholarships out there from the local alumni association.

I will say that for my son, and us, VMI is worth every penny. It is very hard to explain to someone who is not a part of the VMI family. Yes, family. This was something that never occurred to me when my son chose a school, but VMI folks. They have each other's backs. If there is a need, it will be met. I recall last year a cadets car broke down about an hour and a half from me. The parent posted on a FB group if there was anyone in the area that may be able to help. I was tagged by several folks as well as others, I reached out to an alumni I was aware of that was close to that area. In the end within about an hour there were many offers of help. This is just one example of so many I could give you. Should your child attend VMI, when they March out of Cameron Hall with their Brother Rats on Matriculation Day, trust me suddenly they all feel like yours. It's inexplicable, but it is that way. We always have extras for dinner when we visit.

It's a truly wonderful place. I wish your son the best of luck wherever he ends up.
 
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