Voluntary Resignation

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  1. SEABEE

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    What is the standard time it takes to receive an Honorable discharge while on leave awaiting separation after submitting a voluntary letter of resignation?
     
  2. Seavoyager

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    For the Navy, the quickest I've seen it done is in 3 weeks, after a final decision has been made.

    I'm not clear on whether everyone must go through Navy personnel command or not, but assuming they (or whoever is in charge) gives you the green light, out processing can take some time depending on how good your PSD on base is. I think for legal reasons, you are required to get a full physical, dental check etc. which can take a while. You also have to complete various briefs (one being TAPs class, which is at least 3 days long). Yours orders may get delayed as well.

    I think the Navy gives you up to 4 months before you have to separate (there might be an exception for people who are being separated for criminal action or drug use though).
     
  3. SEABEE

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    Seavoyager thank you. I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I was referring to, on leave awaiting separation after submitting a voluntary resignation from USNA.
    Thank you.
     
  4. tradecraft

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    Doesn't it make a difference at what point(plebe,C2C) you decide to quit?
    Don't they make you pay back if you are out processed after commitment 2/7?
     
  5. SEABEE

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    tradecraft - Thank you, I believe you are correct regarding pay back after 2 for 7. However, not everyone who submits a Voluntary letter of resignation from USNA is quitting. There are a myriad of reasons one submits a Voluntary letter of resignation.

    I just don't know how long it usually takes for a MIDN on leave awaiting separation to receive His/Her DD-214 discharge after submitting the Voluntary letter of Resignation.
     
  6. tradecraft

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    You can call it whatever you want. It is not my business to know why. I hope that the alternative route you choose works out. Good luck to your new endeavours.
     
  7. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    The non-fluffy reason I know of is "about to get in a lot of trouble, so quit before it's on your record."
     
  8. Seavoyager

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    I'm not very familiar with how separation at the academy works. My best guess is, you'll most likely have to deal with the MIDN Personnel office (never was a pleasant experience for me!). If you have already gone through the USNA out processing, then you should have left with your DD214, or they should have told you when you will receive it.

    If you haven't been out processed, you will need to return to USNA to go through out processing. If you know of anyone who was separated during plebe summer, it will prob take at least that amount of time. If you have signed your 2 for 7, then it will probably take longer.

    Most likely, you will leave with your DD214 in hand. Otherwise it will be mailed to you once you are officially separated. I'm assuming that you are not on terminal leave, so if you do not return to USNA, you could be considered AWOL.

    Your situation may be different, but I haven't heard of anyone just leaving the Academy and being sent their DD214.
     
  9. SEABEE

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    Seavoyager - Thank you. A USNA MIDN who submits a "Voluntary letter of Resignation" is immediately processed. That being, beginning with numerous interviews and ending with physically leaving the Academy. If in the process a MIDN submits a request for leave awaiting separation, it is evaluated and approved only if the MIDN has no pending violations. Once on approved leave awaiting separation the MIDN "Waits" for his/her discharge to arrive. I simply just don't know what the standard time it take for the discharge to arrive.
     
  10. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I signed my DD214. And before signing it, I went through it line-by-line. I would assume you'll have to confirm what is says too. Because once you leave.... anything you need to do to alter it becomes very difficult.
     
  11. SEABEE

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    LineInTheSand - tradecraft- Thank you. As I indicated before in this thread, not every USNA MIDN who submits a letter of Resignation is quitting. Another non-fluffy reason is unable to trust the Brigade of MIDN to be firm, fair and consistent because you have been raped and then retaliated against for reporting the rape. Other non-fluffy reasons could be unable to trust the Brigade of MIDN due to their, stealing, cheating drug and alcohol use. Looking through rose colored glasses doesn't change the facts, nor does it help change things for the better of producing the best Naval Leaders money can buy.
     
  12. SEABEE

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    Understood, thank you. However, the way it works at USNA is if a MIDN submits a request for leave awaiting separation and it is granted the MIDN leaves the Academy to await separation/discharge. Thank you for your service.
     
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    If this is the case (not doubting, simply setting up the conditional statement) and you are getting no action from your brigade officers, then before you do something drastic and irreversible, please go up your chain of command. Given the current climate of shining light in some very dark nooks and corners of "Sexual Abuse in the Armed Forces," it seems difficult to imagine that everyone in the chain would be invested in covering up, minimizing, or dismissing such an egregious abuse of command and of good order and discipline.
     
  14. cajost

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    I agree. There comes a time when "someone" has to say enough is enough and do the right hting and go up the chain of command and state the facts. Not only the "sexual Abuse in the Armed Forces" focus, there's also recent MIDS that were discharged for sexual abuse. (And who has sex with someone that is passed out? Ew.) My point, do not give up your goal because of this. Make your case and charge on.
     
  15. tradecraft

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    This may not be the best venue to air out your grievance or reason for deciding to leave but the majority of would be applicants and future midshipmen/cadets that frequent this forum may benefit from your experience. Without knowing the facts, to leave without addressing the problem or attempting to correct it by exhausting all avenues through the chain of command is passing the buck. If by your description of would be reasons such as rape,drug use, cheating is tolerated to this day, wouldn't it serve aspiring applicants and others that follow to be warned if these problems persists despite measures to eliminate it? Maybe someone can direct you as to whom of proper authority can be made aware and can deal with it directly.
     
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    Agree with LITS. If I remember correctly, upon separation or discharge, you will be given your DD214 to review and receive a copy along with the rest of your discharge papers. It is very hard to rectify if something is not correct. Make a lot of copies as you will need them down the road for many things. Town tax credits and in some instances pension credits for years served.
     

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