usna1985, DS received an email today letting him know that the wait list was generated yesterday and he was offered a spot on it--email congratulated him and said that the "official" wait list letter along with the FAQ sheet will be mailed out by the end of the week. Unless, he (and I) are reading the email wrong, it appears that he was wait listed...he never got indication that he was in the National Pool..He has a Pres Nom and won a spot on his MOC slate...
Wait list question
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candidate1997
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If a candidate in your district has an LOA and is waiting on appointment to arrive and might decline appointment, do they normally go down the list on that slate, and offer the appointment to the next candidate? Wondering how that works, since they have until May 1 to decide, and most everyone should get a decision by Apr 15? This is potentially the situation with my DS, and he isn't the LOA lol!
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I believe admissions says most everyone should know their application status by April 15...appointment offered(BFE), turned down(TWE), wait listed, offered NAPS/wait listed NAPS or offered Foundation/wait listed Foundation.
From my understading, USNA does not have to go back to any particular slate unless it was submitted as a principal with ranked alternates and the principal does not get/accept his/her appointment.
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From my understading, USNA does not have to go back to any particular slate unless it was submitted as a principal with ranked alternates and the principal does not get/accept his/her appointment.
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Somebody wrote a book about it I think and there are all manner of "coaches" that for a fee, will help you through the process...
I'm glad I found these forums, the mods others that have been there, done that have made the process easy-if it can be described that way.
I'm glad I found these forums, the mods others that have been there, done that have made the process easy-if it can be described that way.
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Candidates aren't notified that they have been "sent" to the National Pool -- even BGOs don't know. However, if you don't receive an appointment, it's a pretty good guess that you were in the National Pool at some point. And some of those who receive appointments have received them out of the National Pool. Basically, those in the National Pool are those who did not "win" their MOC slate(s) and/or did not receive a Presidential appointment. In most cases, you will never know and, in the end, it matters not if you have that BFE in hand.
so DS could have been in the National Pool already and didn't get selected out of that "150" and now is on the wait list? I am just trying to understand what is being conveyed--DS had an MOC nomination and appears did not win the spot on the slate--so DS and the other 8 on that slate went into the National Pool and my DS was not selected from the NP and was not selected out of the 100 Pres nom winners and has now been wait listed...do I have this down? of course the letter should arrive next week so we will know for sure.
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NavyMom19, that is correct. At this point, once USNA can figure out if there will be a yield, then they will starting making offers from the waitlist. I do not believe there is an order, per se, and if there is, they definitely do not give that out to anyone. I would not expect any news until at least mid-May, if not a little longer.
Hope this helps!
Hope this helps!
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National Pool and wait list are two separate entities.
As explained to DS by his BGO and by usna1985 above, candidates that don't win their slate are sent to the national pool. From that pool, 150 appointments are offerred.
Some of those national pool candidates not offered appointments are notified that they have been offered a spot on the wait list via a letter that is mailed to them. They can accept the offer and remain on the wait list, or decline and get a TWE.
No candidate on the wait list has to be appointed. The Academy will see how many of their offers of appointment are accepted(yield) and if there are enough that are not accepted, they turn to the wait list and to fill the remaining slots.
Some years none get appointments from the wait list, last year co2018 had 39.
usnabgo08...thanks, my DH and I were just going over it in our heads and getting it down so that we knew how this was all going to play out over the next month or so. Our DS is continuing his plan to forge ahead as though he will be getting the BFE and taking the last few months of his senior year to enjoy each and every moment while finishing strong. Here's to everyone still on the ride of the wild waves...Fair winds and following seas to you all.
oh_yeah, that kind of sounds like what has taken place...not certain but it does appear this is what is going on. it appears that if one didn't quite have the highest WCS that put him/her in the National Pool 150 list, then he/she went on the wait list...interesting to see how this plays out over the next few weeks and months. Guess when one is in a very competitive district--being selected for the 150 NP is competitive in itself...just wonder where the other 8 off of DS MOC slate fell....press on and keep eye on the goal 
I wonder how the process normally works in terms of the timing of waitlist etc. I can't imagine that they send those waitlist letters out before all the appointment letters are sent. For nearly 2 weeks now there has been a distinct lack of any BFEs; just TWEs with either rejections or a few wait lists.
Does anyone know if there are ever any BFEs sent after the WL letters are sent (other than to people who were on the WL)?
Does anyone know if there are ever any BFEs sent after the WL letters are sent (other than to people who were on the WL)?
This is exactly what I'm wondering as well. There is still two weeks left until the April 15 deadline.
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There is no "150" national pool. There is a national pool and those SELECTED from the national pool (around 2,000 are in the "national pool"). The number of how many get selected from the national pool is variable...it could be 0, 50, 100, 150, etc...no one outside Admissions knows.
Logic would tell you that very few appointments would go out if the wait list has been generated...I am sure there might be few exceptions...and that is what they are, exceptions. If you have not got the BFE or a phone cell indicating an appointment is on the way, I would make the assumption (though, nothing is concrete until you hear from USNA) you will receive a TWE. If that changes, then its icing on the cake. However, you really need to start thinking plan B.
Logic would tell you that very few appointments would go out if the wait list has been generated...I am sure there might be few exceptions...and that is what they are, exceptions. If you have not got the BFE or a phone cell indicating an appointment is on the way, I would make the assumption (though, nothing is concrete until you hear from USNA) you will receive a TWE. If that changes, then its icing on the cake. However, you really need to start thinking plan B.
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Is it possible? I guess it is possible, but very unlikely. If a candidate is on the USNA waitlist, they are fully qualified for USNA. NAPS/Foundation is traditionally for candidates that are not qualified for direct entry into USNA. I would say the odds are very small to approaching 0. Remember, NAPS and Foundation are not the "next" (i.e. number 1165+) candidates after everyone had been appointed to USNA.
No, my DS received WL letter today. No call or email prior. He was very disappointed but at this stage was not surprised. Now the waiting cycle starts all over. He does have a good plan B though and still has hope.