Waitlisted...

[CO43]

Just found out today from my congressman's office (after contacting them) that I haven't been accepted... I'm on the waiting list however.

From what I understand, the Academy gives out appointments to around 1600-1700 out of the 10,000+ applicants. Then, based on how many of those 1600-1700 decline their appointments, the Academy starts giving out appointments to the 3Q'd candidates with nominations who are on that list.

Anybody know how many people are expected to be on that waiting list and how many people statistically will be accepted? Thanks!

 

[flieger83]

Just found out today from my congressman's office (after contacting them) that I haven't been accepted... I'm on the waiting list however.

From what I understand, the Academy gives out appointments to around 1600-1700 out of the 10,000+ applicants. Then, based on how many of those 1600-1700 decline their appointments, the Academy starts giving out appointments to the 3Q'd candidates with nominations who are on that list.

Anybody know how many people are expected to be on that waiting list and how many people statistically will be accepted? Thanks!

The only people that will know this work in Harmon Hall up in RR. And they won't tell anyone, including we ALO's.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83

 

[Christcorp]

Steve is so correct. You're asking for numbers that NO ONE can give. If they try and say they know; even your ALO or Congressman; they are mistaken and misleading.

However, there are some basic math that will tell you that there are MORE people on the wait list than those who get an Appointment. Huh? How is that possible. Again, simple math. (For illustration and ball park figures only)

1. Initial amount of people showing interest in the academy: 10,000+/-
2. Amount who actually go online and start the application process: 8,000+/-
3. Amount who meet the minimum requirements: 6,000+/-
4. Amount who receive a nomination: 5,000+/-
5. Amount of appointments offered: 1,600-1,700
6. Amount expected to accept appointment: 1,300-1,400
7. Amount on the wait list: 3,700+/-

This means that until at least 300-400 appointees TURN DOWN their appointments, they won't get into the wait list. HOWEVER: This too is misleading because it depends WHO turns down the appointment that determines WHO will be offered the replacement slot; and WHEN. I.e. Approximately 1/2 of the appointments are from slotted nominations and not the general pool. e.g. 453 representative; 100 senators; 100 presidential; ROTC; Prior Enlisted; etc... So, if Representative Whatshisnuts from the 3rd district in Whateverthehellstate has a primary nominee and they turn it down, the academy will go to that rep's #2 person if they qualify.

So basically, you can be the #1 highest scored, NON-selectee on the wait-list, and lots of others on the wait list can be offered an appointment before you are because their district/state/nominator is the one that had the person turn down the appointment. But there are so many variables on how the nominators have their nominees ranked, the type of nomination, etc...

So, while no one can give you solid numbers, basic math says that there are MORE people on the wait list than there are with appointment and going to the academy. Hang in there and best of luck. Mike....

 

[JustCallMeDan7]

You also have to understand that alot more people are expected to accept their appointments this year than previous years, and the Class of 2013 is already way over the limit when we were sworn in during Basic. Especially with the status of the economy, alot more appointees are accepting quickly and abundantly. To be honest, from last year, alot more people on the waitlist did not receive appointments than in previous years.

 

[Pima]

I might be wrong CC, but I believe the number for those that get NOMS are only in the 3K marker, not 5K. Remember many get multiple noms, not just one and that reduces the amt of candidates.

Not saying even with the lower amount on the NWL that you have a better chance, because CC is correct, to be pulled off the list you have to hope you are the #2 for your Nom sources. The regs still remain the same, sources are charged...not on their slate....NO APPT.

Lesson for 15 start understanding this why every cadet and parent says have a PLAN B!

 

[Christcorp]

Pima, you might be correct that the number is closer to 3,000 than 5,000. I was going ballpark figures and being optimistic. I.e. 453 representatives; 100 senators; each a slate of 10. That's about 5530; presidentials; etc... But you are probably correct that it's less. Point is/was that there's probably a MINIMUM of 1500 candidate with their name on the wait list. Part of their chances whether they receive an appointment offer will be on the total score; the other part is WHO turned down their appointment.

 

[Roman]

I just thought I would mention that it is still possible to receive the Falcon Foundation Scholarship after being waitlisted (I wasn't, but I know someone who was).