Watch out for the new Army PT test tomorrow

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  1. Chockstock

    Chockstock "Forever One Team"

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    http://www.stripes.com/blogs/stripe...rmy-to-unveil-new-pt-test-on-tuesday-1.136236

    Does this mean that the APFT Im taking this month will be the last one for my the rest of my career? :frown:
     
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    The APFT looks to be changing to more realistic physical skills. Here is an article with a few more details about what might be expected.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_army_new_fitness_test

     
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    And I might add that since they are moving towards a "combat readiness" test, might they use these standards to qualify women for combat roles?
     
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    Also from the article:
    Looks like cadets will be part of the test program.
     
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    I will be really interested in the number of injuries resulting from physical readiness test and combat readiness test.

    I was a young 2LT a long time ago, now I am not sure if I can
    without hurting mysef.

    Dosen't make sense, if you don't pass your don't deploy?
     
  7. goaliedad

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    From the physical readiness, not too many, but I could see a few people getting hurt falling off the balance beam. I would hope they would have training opportunities where you could perfect those skills.

    I'm sure they will adjust the weight/time requirements based upon age.


    Yup. No use putting someone in harm's way who is just going to end up a casualty. I could imagine a required remdial (think boot camp) that would be applied to anyone who failed and then discharge if they fail a second time (unless for women a required transfer to a non-combat MOS assuming that women will only be allowed - not required - to serve in infantry). I would also assume 2x yearly testing on combat test for all combat oriented MOS'.
     
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    Have to say, I like the new name of APRT better than APFT

    I wonder how far we will be required to drag the 180lb sled? I think its interesting to see how the scoring and standards will change here and especially how the CFT for candidates will probably see change as well.

    Article above is not clear on which one will be replacing the APFT...is it elements of the APRT and ACRT combined or just the APRT?
     
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    Looking at the diagram, it would appear to be about 20 yards (10 yds each way around a cone) for the 180 lb sled drag.

    I'm sure they will get the testing requirements spelled out, just like the actual scoring rubrik, after they complete their current testing.
     
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    New Test

    Just clearing things up before I start cheering :smile: - so this new test will replace every single PFT from now on? Including for women?
     
  12. goaliedad

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    From now on? Not quite so fast. It sounds like it may be in place next fall, but the Army still has to finalize the requirements.

    Women? Absolutely.

    Be careful what you wish for, for you may actually get it. This test actually sounds tougher than the current test.
     
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    Not a chance. This will be a welcome change.
     
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    But if an officer fails the test before deployment and cannot deploy, who takes over the unit they were working with over the past months? It would hardly be fair to take away a leader that the men have gotten use to, and it would not be right to put a new commander in charge without knowing the capabilities of his unit first hand right before they are deployed.
     
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    Fair? What the heck does fair have to do with anything? This isn't playground kickball. It's the military.
     
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    I think for most people that will be true. The level of engagement with the actual events in the test is very welcome.

    The only downside I see is for those flying a desk, the Combat test can't be trained for at most people's homes and will require a base visit to train more often. Not a problem for most, I imagine.

    In the old testing regime, it is quite easy to train to the test. You should know what you are going to score before the day you take it. The new basic test still works this way. I can't imagine that you will get enough reps in to know your score on the combat test.
     
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    Really

    I don't think they will be giving the test the night before they deploy.

    As an officer you had better be in at least the top 10% of PT scores of your unit. If you maintain that you will have no fear of failing a PT test. As a Platoon Leader if you fail you PT test you don't deserve to have a Platoon. The issue you describe above should NEVER come up.
     
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    Considering those people "flying a desk" are still required to attend PT on a daily basis and, with very rare exception, work on an installation that's not an issue at all. Where else would their desk be?
     
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    :yllol:
     
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    I'm thinking about the poor ROTC cadre stuck on campuses and those other people not on bases like recruiters in large cities. Now they will have to head to base to practice on the balance beams and whatnot where before they could qualify by training at home.

    Not complaining. I think there is too much detachment from the "realistic drills" with the current setup.
     

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