West Point Candidate Qualified Letter

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  1. deltapapa

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    Hello,

    I received this letter from this West Point Admissions today, which states:

    We have received all your application information and the Admissions Committee has qualified your file academically, medically and physically. We are still waiting for a nomination before we can consider you for an appointment. West Point has eliminated rolling admissions for this cycle. As such, all qualified applicants with a nomination are placed on a National Waiting List until appointments are made. Most appointments will be tendered between 26 February and 1 May 2016. You have demonstrated strong initiative and diligence in completing your file. Although qualified, you are still competing for admission and should continue to update your record with significant achievements in academic, leadership, and extracurricular and athletic activities. Do not forget to include standardized test scores or updated transcripts from your most recently completed academic semester. We will continue to add achievements to your file through the end of February 2016. As soon as we receive your official nomination, it will be posted on the 'Overview' page of your candidate portal. Although most offers of admission will be tendered before 1 May 2016, final selection from the waiting list may be made only a few days before the class enters.

    I haven't heard from my congresswoman/senators yet. However, I was wondering what this letter is about?
     
  2. Sledge

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    Standard letter. You are "triple-qualified," or 3Q, for admission. That's a very good thing. West Point is telling you that they don't have a nomination on file yet. That's not unusual at this date.

    A nomination is needed for admission. But even if you are 3Q with a nomination, you are not guaranteed admission.
     
  3. Padre101

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    Congrats deltalpapa for making it this far through. Question: Did you have your PE teacher complete the PE SOE???? Thanks for the info.
     
  4. Longliverockthewho

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    DS received 3Q letter before the PE request was posted. Does anyone have a better understanding for the rationale behind the PE SOE? I thought the CFA would suffice.
     
  5. Letsdothis

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    I think it is just an additional teacher eval. I like it! I wish USNA would have asked for it, too. Positive teacher evals must only help an application.
     
  6. deltapapa

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    Yes. Last week, my PE Teacher completed the SOE and I did my interview.
     
  7. tug_boat

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    Congrats on being 3Q'd! Now the hard part, the waiting game! Please keep us posted when you get a nom. Also, continue working on Plan B and C.

    Good Luck!! Stay out of trouble

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
  8. Sledge

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    That PE SOE must be new.

    I think they were finding a great disparity between the results of CFA's administered "in the field" and the results of diagnostics taken on R-day or shortly thereafter.
     
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  9. deltapapa

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    Of course. I already applied to UC's and Cal States. I need to work on Privates and Army ROTC Apps.
     
  10. deltapapa

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    That is what my interviewer told me.
     
  11. lef9820

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    I also received this letter, but mine acknowledged my nomination. So far, I have a Senatorial nomination and am interviewing with my local congressman next week. I also have a Letter of Encouragement they said the same thing when I was at USMA for my overnight... candidates were scoring way higher on the CFA than they did on their R-Day assessments and first APFTs. So, I guess they decided to add the PE SOE. The waiting game is so hard, and it's difficult knowing that no matter how many positive indications there are, nothing is every guaranteed. Guess we'll have to keep hanging on and crossing our fingers.
     
  12. mom3boys

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    Last summer, before Rday, my DS received a letter that stated something like: You reported X pullups on your CFA; you are expected to be able to do Y pullups on Rday. They expect the CCs to stay in shape, so I think you are correct on the concern over the disparity.
     
  13. Padre101

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    I think I understand the rationale for a PE SOE, but I don't understand why WP won't allow the high school coaches of candidates fill out the SOE. Apparently, the instruction states: "Please note that a high school athletics coach may NOT submit the PE SOE UNLESS they are also your PE teacher."


    Most of the candidates to WP are varsity athletes and depending on the school, the last time some of these candidates had PE was years ago. If they want a realistic assessment of a candidate's physical conditioning, why not allow current high school coaches complete the SOE???


    I know another thread addresses this issue. But this seems like a last minute requirement which doesn't make much sense. IMHO.
     
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  14. billyb

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    I have no idea, but there is always a method to the madness. Maybe they are finding that most of the Rday vs CFA "disparity" is coming from coaches who are administering the CFA?
     
  15. Padre101

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    Mom3boys, do you recall what pullup numbers "X" and "Y" were? And on Rday, did they perform the entire CFA, including the run? Can't imagine they had time to do that?
     
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    It may be less if an issue of people not staying in shape and more of an issue of CFA administrators counting reps that shouldn't have counted.
     
  17. Padre101

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    Excellent point, Billyb. But if a candidate performed and passed his/her CFA at SLE, then why have the PE SOE?
     
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    Understood. Good point. But would a PE teacher SOE be the best person to address that concern???
     
  19. Sledge

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    That's part of it, I'm sure. Protocol is important. The order, the rest time, the form.

    For you candidates following this, R-day is a shock to the senses. It's not that difficult, but if you're normal, you probably slept fitfully, if at all, the night before. That, and the stress, affect your physical abilities. So, even if you kept in good shape, your R-day scores are most likely going to suffer. In other words, try to be over-prepared.
     
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    Sledge I was thinking the same thing. The emotions of that day, lack of sleep the night or two before, heat/humidity of you aren't used to it, and again the emotions dump that your body goes through definitely plays a role in your physical performance. I think AWP knows this and accounts for that, but was probably having kids show up with 10 documented pull ups and couldn't do 1 on R Day or were 2-3 minutes off their runs times. At Navy we give them a PT test day 2 after their first night in Bancroft. Alot of them perform poorly simply because they barely slept and the toll that I Day does on their emotions. We usually wait it out a few days to see who snaps back to reality and who really is out of shape.
     
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