West Point More Selective....

Discussion in 'Military Academy - USMA' started by tug_boat, Jan 24, 2016.

  1. tug_boat

    tug_boat Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    1,737
    Likes Received:
    521
    ClimberGirl likes this.
  2. Falcon A

    Falcon A Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    601
    tug_boat -- we discussed this last year: http://www.serviceacademyforums.com...ted-waiting-for-the-bfe-this-maybe-why.42495/

    West Point and USNA have a habit of skewing their admissions stats by counting everyone that opened a file. If you count the applications completed (USAFA it appears does it this way) then the acceptance rate is between 12-16%. That still is a tough school to get into.

    IMHO, the stats provided in the Yahoo article are meant to appeal to elitism and probably contribute to attracting the wrong type of candidate.
     
  3. MemberLG

    MemberLG Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    2,802
    Likes Received:
    443
    How about this

    Medical and physical requirements make SAs more selective

    It will be interesting to know of kids that applied to both SAs and IVY schools, how many SAs rejected for not meeting the physical and medical requirement.
     
  4. Falcon A

    Falcon A Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    601
    That would be an interesting stat, but not sure it is knowable.

    No doubt that the medical and physical stats make the SAs (and SMCs and ROTC programs) more selective in who they allow in.

    My only beef is I wish USMA (and USNA) would use the "applications completed" as their basis for their acceptance rate. They are terrific schools . . . IMHO there is no need to "fudge" the data in order to market to a target clientel
     
    navymomwannabe and Letsdothis like this.
  5. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2007
    Messages:
    8,747
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    There are less spots in a class than people who qualify medically and physically, so I don't see how that affects the selectivity…. maybe less people apply because of it, but that's difficult to measure.
     
  6. time2

    time2 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    265
    This is a recurring topic whenever some media outlet posts yet another 'college ranking'. Most are very arbitrary and there are aspects of applying to SA's that aren't part of civilian universities, so comparing them are like apples/oranges. What difference does it really make if X or Y % of those applying get accepted???? Does that somehow make you more/less likely to apply?
     
  7. Falcon A

    Falcon A Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    601
    It must matter to some and someone in admissions must have a marketing admissions study that says so . . .
     
  8. tug_boat

    tug_boat Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    1,737
    Likes Received:
    521
    I had to take a second glance at the article thinking it was the same, just republished. But its not, the percentages have changed. A couple of issues here, we have an experienced-educated perspective. Let say we go to Disneyland for the first time and see the Matterhorn ride for the first time thinking its this giant snow capped mountain. But when you go inside its a steel building. People look at West Point not knowing how to get inside. With our experienced-educated perspective we try to assist them the best way we may know, collectively. We know WP is unique, it is special, it is exclusive and people want to be part of the experience.

    With about 60,000 total graduates, we know not all can be chosen. I feel its also our duty to expose all candidate to the options available. Its a big world out there!

    The business article, is what it is, you make what who want of it.

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
  9. tug_boat

    tug_boat Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    1,737
    Likes Received:
    521
    A buddy of mine worked a Army recruiting office. He made mention that 2/3 of the interested people who walk through the door are turned down because of physical limitations, over weight being the most common.

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
  10. MemberLG

    MemberLG Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    2,802
    Likes Received:
    443
    An irony is lost to many people that military members have to be healthy enough to get killed. I forgot the name, but the British lost a lot of healthy males during WW I and males who are not healthy enough to serve in the military reproduced.
     
    EOD/SEALmom likes this.
  11. eaglei84

    eaglei84 upwardbound

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2015
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    5
    It's not quite what you were asking, but I have a 2020 appointment to West Point, but Stanford decided not to accept me. Which is kind of funny considering West Point probably let me in for my academics (36 ACT, 4.0, etc). Good thing West Point is the first choice!
     
    Stonewall, EOD/SEALmom and Falcon A like this.
  12. Falcon A

    Falcon A Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    601
    Eagle -- I love this! Now put that chip on your shoulder, go kick a$$ at Woo Poo, earn a Rhode Scholarship to show Stanford where they went wrong, and work to become the best army officer you can be.
     
  13. brovol

    brovol Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2015
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    555
    I suspect that the ivy's count applications which may also, for example be missing a transcript or an essay too. But this I do know; the application for the ivy schools isn't a fraction as difficult to complete as the SA process. The SA application process, I believe, is designed to include barriers for the candidate to overcome. It is a marathon which needs to be completed quickly but with great quality.

    I don't recall seeing in any of the SA applications instructions to describe you social media style, and how it will promote transgender equality, or when the last time that you cried about the plite of illegal aliens. Perhaps the ivy's are more selective than the SA's. The question is, who are they trying to select.

    .....but I digress
     

Share This Page