What Are My Chances? any feedback helps thanks so much

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  1. adt98

    adt98 New Member

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    So ever since I could remember I have always wanted to serve. West Point has always been my dream school and I've been trying so hard these past few years to make myself as competitive as possible. As a back up I also am applying to army ROTC. I'm currently a junior in high school. However, one thing I feel that is really holding me back is my low SAT score (which I will get into later on). So here are my credentials.

    SAT score: 1820. 600 Reading, 610 math. 610 writing with a 11/12 essay
    I'm worried because this score is very low and out of all three tests I have taken this is the best one. However, taking the SAT again to get a higher score may be a waste because the next SAT is considered the "redesigned SAT" that is back to the 1600 scale.

    Class rank: 32 of 190

    GPA: 3.9 unweighted
    4.42 weighted

    Extra Curriculars:
    -1 year Soccer JV
    -worked as waiter in retirement home for 3 months
    -4 year trombone player in concert band (including senior year)
    -4 year varsity Fencing, and already designated Captain for next year (including senior year)
    -4 year business club (including senior year), 1 year (sophomore year) as membership VP
    -4 year community service club (including senior year)
    -2 year enviormental club (including senior year), currently CO-VP of club
    -4 year Varsity tennis (including senior year), currently a Captain and will most likely be a Captain next year
    -Member of the National Honor Society
    -2 year Tennis instructor at a free clinic in my town (including senior year)

    Nominations:
    Currently seeking as many as I can

    CFA:
    Pull Ups: 16
    Crunches: 64
    Pushups: 68
    1 mile: 6:50
    40 yard shuttle run: undetermined
    basketball throw: undetermined

    Advanced Classes:
    -Currently in AP US history (plan on taking the test)
    -currently in AP physic 1 (long story short my school hired a very unqualified physics teacher and taking the test would be a waste)
    -All honors classes throughout my high school career (freshmen-current junior) so far except sophomore algebra 2

    Please any feedback or anyone who has been through this process any advice or stories would help greatly. thank you so much
     
  2. buff81

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    Academics:
    If you feel that you cannot improve on the SAT anymore, take the ACT a couple of times. West Point will use the standardized test that you did the best on the evaluate you. In other words, if you do better on the ACT, then the SAT scores will not be used for the evaluation.

    Leadership:
    Looks good -- with the varsity letters and Captain positions, as well as leadership roles in clubs. Being President of a club would even be better. If you are a Boy Scout, make sure you get your Eagle. Apply and go to Boys State. Boys State will give you more Whole Candidate Score points in the Leadership section of your file.

    CFA:
    The CFA events are done one after the other, so it is hard to say how you are doing unless you have practiced the CFA as it is tested (one event after the other). The mile is the last event, so if 6:50 is your mile just running it by itself, then that time will most likely be higher on the CFA. You have plenty of time to practice and improve your CFA times and numbers. Just keep working on it and take it as soon as you can after your file is opened.

    Apply to SLE, if you have not already. It doesn't add anything to your file, but it does give you a glimpse of life at West Point. You will be able to take the CFA there and use that score for your file, if you want to. At SLE, you will be taking the CFA with others attendees. Some find that their competitive spirit kicks in because they are getting tested with others and they tend to do better than taking it alone back home.
     
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  3. Maplerock

    Maplerock Proud to be an American

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    That's an average to below average application. Plenty are enrolled with worse stats, but they have other factors that made them attractive to the academy. Athletes, minorities, females, first generation college, personal obstacles overcome, outstanding leadership, etc.
    Do you check any of those boxes? If not, you're a longshot at this time. (IMHO)
     
  4. buff81

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    That's an interesting opinion that this is an average to below average application. Besides improving on his/her test scores (which they know need improvement), what would you recommend? They would like suggestions on improving their file. Most cadets are not recruited athletes or URMs, so I don't think that that should discourage anyone if they can't 'check that box'.
     
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    BOYS STATE will help a lot. If you add that your application will be solid, because it will provide a huge bump in leadership where your application is weak. Obviously your SAT scores should be better, 700+ for verbal and math should be your goal. Top 10% in your class would be nice, but that may not be possible.
     
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    We should be more supportive:) I think the kid is on the right track. Pls improve your SAT and class rank and take more AP classes. Best wishes!
     
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  8. Maplerock

    Maplerock Proud to be an American

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    Right! A trophy for everyone!

    Why sugarcoat? Not top 10%, Bottom of acceptable SAT's, along with a decent but not spectacular extracurricular resume'.

    Good luck, but make sure all the eggs are not in one basket. Plans B,C, & D are important.
     
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