What are my Chances? From MD?!

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  1. thisso11

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  2. 18'er

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    Looks good.

    If I were you, I would do nothing but study the SAT blue book math (hard questions only) and just kill yourself with hard SAT vocabulary flash cards over the summer. You could pick up what might be a critical 50-60 pts on each (math and critical reading). That will help you with the Academies. But....

    The next SAT is October 6. I doubt the scores will be back before your congressman's deadline.

    We've just got to hope your scores are high enough to be competitive in your district. Everything else looks great. Run for team captain of everything you play.
     
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    Your scores will hold you back, no doubt about that, but everything else looks fine. We also don't know how competitive your district is either, that's what it will really come down to.

    I would also not reveal this much info about yourself concerning district, etc. You never know who could be discerning these forums so it's best to be safe.
     
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    Thanks a lot, I will work on my SATs, but how competitive is md in general?
     
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    Trust me, math SAT is a much larger component than I think a lot of us realize, especially if you look at the trends on this forum.
     
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    Is math sat the most important part?
     
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    700+ would be most ideal......I scored around a 650 and I've been told countlessly by many, many qualified people that that was the main reason I wasn't accepted.
     
  8. 18'er

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    Talking without any authoritative numbers, but I would say Maryland is uber-competitive. It's basically a suburb of DC, the whole state. Lots of USG connected parents. Current or retired mil types. They know what a great deal it is to attend a SA. They breed good children. They encourage said children to apply. They know how to help their children deal with USG applications/forms. Virginia/Md area is filled w good public and private schools that crank out SAT jedis.

    Not trying to discourage you. Just being realistic. A man's not dead til he's hanged. Apply. Keep testing. Only one thing is certain - you won't get in if you don't apply.
     
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    If I managed to get a nomination with the current scores, but improved them later on say to a 700, how will that look? Will that move me up in the rankings in my district?
     
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    It was the single most valued component a few years ago, not sure how that is today. I would say shoot for a 700+, my FFR wants me to score no lower than 800 so you can imagine how competitive my district is.
     
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    What district were you from?
     
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    Of standardized testing? Either that or ACT math, I would say yes. On a SAT Math section, the difference between 690 and 800 can be 4-5 wrong/omitted question out of 55 or so.
     
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    Is Math SAT harder than ACT math?
     
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    Immediate hurdle - getting a nom. Those are the next deadlines. As I said above, you don't have much of an opportunity to improve before those close in October. If you get one, however, and improve SAT by January ( three testing opportunities), you could be in the running. Check your rep, but most reps just submit a list of ten unranked nominees for each slot they have at an SA. The SA then picks who they want from that slate. Get a nom and maybe you can Jump ahead of some dudes/dudettes on the nom slate before the SA's close their application deadlines in Jan-Feb.

    Does that make sense?
     
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    Well, I would say the SAT is trickier. The last questions in each section are the "hard" questions. Read them and check answers twice.
     
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    Thanks a lot 18, pressures are high!
     
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    Indeed. But remember this, whatever you do to better yourself for a SA app is only going to make ROTC/ regular college apps that much easier if you don't get in. Since you aren't competing in my AO, I sincerely with you the best of luck.

    A lot of people will say 700/700 is the minimum these days. It's certainly something to shoot for, but Only West Point knows for sure. Your leadership matrix looks really good to me.

    Don't quit trying.

    Google the ACT test dates. Might be one in Sept.

    At 640 math, you know a lot. You just have to recognize the tricks. practice.

    At 670 verbal, I'm betting the difference is vocab. SAT loves difficult vocab. Flash cards, read Catch-22, more flash cards.
     
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    They're pretty similar in difficulty level, both make you think differently. I did well on both but my ACT was marginally better. I also took Honors PreCalc/Trig this year, that probably helped. Take both though, you never know what will happen.
     
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    thisso11-

    STANDARDIZED TESTS-
    Your SAT scores are solid but definitely take the SAT again. Take it as many times as you can until the deadline in Feb 2014. West Point superscores which means that they use the best score from each subsection every time you test, so there is no penalty to taking the test multiple times.
    Also - take the ACT. You may do better on the ACT than the SAT but you won't know unless you try. West Point will evaluate you on the standardized test that you score best on so there is no penalty to taking both the ACT and the SAT.
    SAT/ACT scores are very important in the academic portion of your file. So take both tests more than once.

    SPORTS-
    Varsity letters in 4 sports - excellent!
    If you were to be captain in one or more of those sports your senior year - even better.

    NOMINATION-
    Your best shot for a nom is with your Congressman. With your Congressman, you are competing with only those in your district v. the whole state with your Senators.
    Apply for all noms that you are qualified for which at a minimum is 4 - your Congressman, your 2 Senators and the VP.
    If you are curious about the competitiveness of your district, talk to your FFR. While that fact is interesting to know, you shouldn't get all caught up in it as there is nothing you can do about the competitiveness of your district.
    Focus on YOUR file. Tweak your SAT scores. Take the ACT. Apply for all 4 noms. Shoot for being captain of one or more of your sports. Good luck :thumb:
     
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    Emory Riddle Celebrating Freedom AFJROTC Award

    BTW, the award is from Embry Riddle. If I caught that, someone else in a Congressman's or admissions office will too. We want that application to be flawless!

    Best of luck! Nicole
     

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