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gmkohn

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Below is all my information regarding my Army ROTC National Scholarship Application. I was wondering what my chances are at being awarded a national scholarship. Additionally, I was wondering what the timeline looks like in regards to when I will hear if I am awarded the scholarship. Thanks!

GPA: 3.2
SAT: Math-660; Critical Reading-500; Writing-580 (Two part: 1160; three part: 1740)

Pushups in 1 minute: 72
Sit-ups in 1 minute: 55
One-mile run: 6 minutes 36 seconds

Interview already completed at Rutgers University. Went excellently. Was told I would be recommended with "highest honors".
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Athletics:
grades 9, 10, 11: Varsity Letter-winner Wrestling
graders 11, 12: Varsity Letter-winner Cheerleading (male cheerleader)
UCA ALL-AMERICAN Cheerleader

Leadership:
Student Coordinator of 6 week Summer Community Volunteer Program (Urban Mitzvah Corps)
President of Youth Group (was Vice President, Treasurer and Freshman Rep. in 4 years priors)
Member of my Temple's Youth Committee
4x Participant in Mitzvah Corps (New Orleans--built homes destroyed by Katrina, San Franscisco--worked with impoverished/homeless and disabled individuals, New Brunswick--worked with underprivileged kids, disabled kids, impoverished, elderly)

Other Info (presented on my application)
-Has given 2+ speeches (10, 11, 12)
-Volunteer Camp Counselor (10, 11, 12)
-Master of ceremonies (10, 11, 12) [through youth group]
-Work an average of 15 hrs/week as a Salesman in a formal wear store
-I have received numerous awards regarding leadership roles

Schools Choice:
1. Rutgers University
2. The University of Cincinnati
3. University of Alabama Tuscaloosa
4. West Virginia University
 
My opinion would be that your GPA and SAT scores could be better to be highly competitive but the board does look at the "all around person". Your attributes in the other areas (athletics / leadership) look pretty good. If you did 72 correct Army pushups in one minute as you indicated above, then you have my vote :) The PMS who interviewed my son told him to expect results from the 7 Jan board in late Jan or early Feb. Good Luck!
 
ArmyRetired said:
My opinion would be that your GPA and SAT scores could be better to be highly competitive but the board does look at the "all around person". Your attributes in the other areas (athletics / leadership) look pretty good. If you did 72 correct Army pushups in one minute as you indicated above, then you have my vote :) The PMS who interviewed my son told him to expect results from the 7 Jan board in late Jan or early Feb. Good Luck!
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Thank you very much! I truly hope that my athletic abilities and leadership activities bring up my chances. I appreciate the response! All the best to you and your son.
 
Good athletics and leadership.

Retake the SAT. That needs to be better.

Work on the GPA.

Academics may hurt, however, when interviewing (eventually), remember to stress your leaderships/athletics.
 
Improves- GPA and SATs

Sustains- Leadership and Extra Currics

The only thing I find odd is the PFT. The situps are on the higher end of believable, although I definitely think 55 is doable with good form. However 72 push ups seems like a big stretch in terms of proper positioning, time allotted and form. I understand you were/are a wrestler and a cheerleader so you must have some decent upper mass but 72 is really pushing it. I wrestled in HS, did powerlifting in college and with good form (locking out arms, back straight) I could do about 60 in a minute at my best.

My advice is to search on here/youtube for proper APFT form and continue to work on all fitness areas especially running. Nothing makes a MSI stand out better than a quick 2 mile time in the Fall.
 
Thank you ALL for your advice!!

My application is complete and simply waiting to be reviewed.

Re: APFT...my test was administered by my physical education teacher who is responsible for ALL military related physical fitness assessments, including ROTC and the service academies. I DID complete 72 pushups in one minute, with proper form: down 90 degrees or lower, up to fully extended arms, legs and back straight and feet very slightly separated.
 
gmkohn said:
Thank you ALL for your advice!!

My application is complete and simply waiting to be reviewed.

Re: APFT...my test was administered by my physical education teacher who is responsible for ALL military related physical fitness assessments, including ROTC and the service academies. I DID complete 72 pushups in one minute, with proper form: down 90 degrees or lower, up to fully extended arms, legs and back straight and feet very slightly separated.
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Best of luck to you on the next board. If you do not get offered a scholarship on the next board I would highly suggest you re-take the SAT or take the ACT, you may want to sign up now just in case.

I am curious, did the PMS that interviewed you count your Cheerleading as a Varsity sport on your interview form. Were you Captain of either the wrestling team or the cheerleading team.

Keep working on your run, remember the APFT is a 2 mile run with a max time of 15:54. Now I have to agree with others, 72 PU's in one minute is a big stretch, Your PE Teacher may say your form was right but be prepared. Also your PE Teacher can't do the Physical Fitness tests for all ROTC Programs, and I doubt he can do them for all the Academies. I really don't mean to be skeptical, I think people are just trying to advise you that Form will be a lot tougher when you start ROTC. As an example my son's APFT score was 343, he did over 100 PU's and he couldn't even do 72 in one minute. The test was done at Ranger Challenge.

Best of luck on the next boards.
 
Jcleppe said:
Best of luck to you on the next board. If you do not get offered a scholarship on the next board I would highly suggest you re-take the SAT or take the ACT, you may want to sign up now just in case.

I am curious, did the PMS that interviewed you count your Cheerleading as a Varsity sport on your interview form. Were you Captain of either the wrestling team or the cheerleading team.

Keep working on your run, remember the APFT is a 2 mile run with a max time of 15:54. Now I have to agree with others, 72 PU's in one minute is a big stretch, Your PE Teacher may say your form was right but be prepared. Also your PE Teacher can't do the Physical Fitness tests for all ROTC Programs, and I doubt he can do them for all the Academies. I really don't mean to be skeptical, I think people are just trying to advise you that Form will be a lot tougher when you start ROTC. As an example my son's APFT score was 343, he did over 100 PU's and he couldn't even do 72 in one minute. The test was done at Ranger Challenge.

Best of luck on the next boards.
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Thank you for your advice! I am the first to admit that my abdominal strength is far weaker than my upper body strength, so I am not nearly as proud or happy with my sit-up numbers, but will continue to work towards executing more.

However, I am confident in my 72, correctly executed pushups in one minute, as I trained day in and day out to achieve that many in one minute. I appreciate the advice, as well as the concern. I will and am continuing to train so that I don't ever lose the ability to perform that well, and I am looking forward to every physical assessment I ever take during my tenure in ROTC, so that it is well proven that I can and did do as many as I claim to have done. I will not take the criticism to heart, as it motivates me even more to prove to others what I am capable of. Being doubted only pushes me, so thank you!

Happy Holidays to ALL!! :)
 
Right Attitude

gmkohn said:
Thank you for your advice! I am the first to admit that my abdominal strength is far weaker than my upper body strength, so I am not nearly as proud or happy with my sit-up numbers, but will continue to work towards executing more.

However, I am confident in my 72, correctly executed pushups in one minute, as I trained day in and day out to achieve that many in one minute. I appreciate the advice, as well as the concern. I will and am continuing to train so that I don't ever lose the ability to perform that well, and I am looking forward to every physical assessment I ever take during my tenure in ROTC, so that it is well proven that I can and did do as many as I claim to have done. I will not take the criticism to heart, as it motivates me even more to prove to others what I am capable of. Being doubted only pushes me, so thank you!

Happy Holidays to ALL!! :)
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Good for you. Right form or wrong form that's the winning attitude to go in with. It will be important to your years in ROTC in many respects; not least of which is the fact that truly excelling on the PT is the (I was about to say easiest) most readily available way to quickly stand out from the crowd and begin to make your mark. :thumb:
 
kinnem said:
Good for you. Right form or wrong form that's the winning attitude to go in with. It will be important to your years in ROTC in many respects; not least of which is the fact that truly excelling on the PT is the (I was about to say easiest) most readily available way to quickly stand out from the crowd and begin to make your mark. :thumb:
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Thank you very much! :thumb:
 
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