What Are My Chances?

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  1. croboe66

    croboe66 New Member

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    I have officially turned everything into the NA and was just wondering what my chances are of receiving an appointment.

    ACT Math: 30
    ACT English: 32
    AP Scores:
    -AP Chem: 5
    -AP French: 3

    GPA: 4.04

    Classes Taken: AP Chem, AP Bio, AP English, AP Calc, five years of French, Physics, Honors English for three years, band all four years, World History, US History, Civics, Economics, any math and science leading to the AP level

    Leadership: member of CAP, rank captain in marching band, member of Wind Ensemble (aka...leader of the marching band)

    EC: County Honors Band, Pep Band, Marching Band, Ski Team (freshman year), Green Group, NHS, pit orchestra, Civil Air Patrol, French Club

    Community: Spent a week in Appalachia repairing homes (3 summers), tutoring, Safety Town, Green Group (recycling at the school), NHS, any CAP related activities

    CFA Scores:
    Pull-Ups: 0 (55 sec arm hang)
    Push-Ups: 32
    Sit-Ups: 95
    Shuttle Run: 10.5 sec
    B-Ball Throw: 22 ft (I know this one is weak)
    Mile Run: 7:42 (not my best by a long shot)

    I realize that my CFA scores are not strong, but what are my chances overall?

    Thanks!
     
  2. JettAirliner

    JettAirliner USNA Appointee 2016

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    Your CFA scores are weirder than mine. That's funny to me.

    But in my opinion, seem like good extracurriculars and scholastic business. Build physically and you'll have a good shot. I don't know ACT-SAT conversion off the top of my head, but 30 and 32 are fairly high scores, yes?
     
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    falconchic88 Member

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    Croeboe, I would seriously consider retaking that CFA. Work out hard and you can get those scores up. Your overall app is strong, but you are weak on the althletics, so you need a strong cfa to make up for the lack of a team varsity sport.
    When my DD took cfa at NASS, her scores looked much like yours, but she worked hard, retook it in September and was able to get 3 pull ups, max push ups and sit ups, and improve her BB throw from 21ft to 40 ft. She improved on everything else too. About 2 wks after resubmitting her scores she was rewarded with the BFE to USNA as a member of the class of 2016! (she has Pres Nom), so its worth it. You still have plenty of time, if you work hard!
     
  5. Whistle Pig

    Whistle Pig Banned

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    falconchic's nailed your major achilles ...

    Your CFA will stand out like a sore thumb. A SORE thumb. And the other is virtually no athletics. Remember, 90% participated, and what that means that 9 of 10 Mids were players. 1 of 10 was not. Which group would any aspiring applicant prefer to be in? Especially with mediocre CFA? I might be reading into this, but unaware if the USNA D&B have any marching oboes ...
     
  6. Educated1

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    Are you male or female? It matters when evaluating the CFA scores.
     
  7. Whistle Pig

    Whistle Pig Banned

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    Good question. I was assuming female.
     
  8. croboe66

    croboe66 New Member

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    Yes, I am female. I was considering retaking the CFA, so now I definitely will! Thank you for your input!!!
     
  9. Whistle Pig

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    Assuming you've "passed" you might want to consider doing so carefully. Whatever you receive trumps your current score, unlike the MO for SAT/ACT scores. Said differently, re-testing on CFA CAN hurt you. And yours is not to determine IF results would be submitted or not. Once you've taken it, your monitor is obligated to submit. So be sure you can improve it. Maybe not possible at this late date for the coming appointment season, but participating in sports may well add more value.
     
  10. 2012mom?

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    It's only October. There's plenty of time to take falconchic's advise about re-taking the CFA. Most noms don't go out until January, and packages can be updated until March. That said, I would advise you to re-take the CFA as soon as you are absolutely sure that you will do significantly better in at least one area, and no worse in any.

    Pay attention to WP: you do not want to re-do the CFA if there is any reasonable chance that you would do worse. From comments on previous threads, (particularly for USNA) try to max out in pushups, crunches, and the mile. Also, if you can get at least one full pull-up, that's a big milestone for a lot of females. I'm not saying not to do your best on the other events, but the areas I mentioned are where I would suggest putting the most practice time.
     
  11. matt123456

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    I would work on the CFA scores. To me, everything else looks fine.

    1 pull up > 999 secs of arm hang (I think!)

    Basket ball throw : If you are really having trouble, play some basketball with your friends. (Thats what I do :thumb:)

    Mile run: You can really get this down sooo much. I would tell you for a great workout, run for speed and not endurance in the 1 mile. I ran track season all long with endurance practices and didn't get any faster.

    Pushups - You can surely do more with practice, do pushups everyday! Do as many as you can without stopping
     
  12. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    I wouldn't sweat the Bball throw. Seriously. Focus on doing at least one pull-up. Do more push-ups and at least a sub-7:30 mile. If you focus on those three items for the next month, I can almost guarantee you'll improve.
     
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    Croeboe,

    What is you sports resume? How involved have you been?

    Your academic credentials look similar to my Mid's. Your CFA scores (except BB throw - she's a catcher in softball) are just slightly lower. But she had numerous athletic awards and a heavy involvement (read: committment) in high level competitive sports for many years.

    So if you don't have that, your CFA score needs to reflect your athletic ability. Of all the areas in the application process, the CFA is the one you have absoute control over.
     

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