What happens after getting into USMA?

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  1. DutyHonorCountry

    DutyHonorCountry Member

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    I met this person the other day who claims to believe that after getting an appointment to USMA or USMAPS that each and every cadet accepted to a certain class will go through an interrogation or question-answer session at some point during BEAST or their academic career at USMA. Is this true?
     
  2. BigBear

    BigBear Class of 2015

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    no.

    edit - you do have to fill out a pretty long form for security clearance, so that might be what they are referencing. As for an interrogation, no, there are no interrogations during Beast. I have been here and have never been interrogated. You may be questioned if you have to go in front of a Board (soldier of the quarter board = good, Honor Board = bad), but there is no generic interrogation, etc. that you will go through.
     
  3. kinnem

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    You'll certainly be required to get a security clearance at some point during your time at the Academy. I don't know whether or not an interview is required as part of this, but I doubt it. Could this be what he was referring to?
     
  4. GoArmyBeatNavy

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    Are you trolling us? You ask if West Point can verify scores with the testing services and then you ask if West Point questions Candidates after they are accepted?
     
  5. ArmyStrong7

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    ???? Ummmm I'm pretty sure he's being serious. :confused:
     
  6. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    I'm sure he is serious. The question is why is he asking. Although I earlier wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt I suspect GoArmyBeatNavy hit the mark. This is probably all about the SAT scores he submitted. If not then there is something else that he doesn't want to reveal. IMO anyway.
     
  7. another13mom

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    Overall, if you look at the OP's questions, they are ill-informed, reveal some character issues (submitting false test scores, etc.), and above all, according to his posts, this "applicant" HAS NOT received a nomination. Hopefully, he will find something else to occupy his time as his chances of admission are slim to none, so I'm w/ GoArmy on this one. Troll Alert.
     
  8. DutyHonorCountry

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    Haha..I mean, do you want me to troll you? But seriously. I am asking you straight forward so I expect a straight foreward and honest answer.
    -_-
     
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  9. DutyHonorCountry

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    Another13mom, I didn't submit false test scores get that fact straight. And I can careless about whether or not I recived a nomination (it sucks, but my dreams of going to USMA will not be hindered by that fact. Too many of you OPs think Noms are the ONE and ONLY way to go) because I do stand a chance of getting a prep school offer and I definately have a shot of becoming successful at USMA. If you want to help, answer my post; if you don't then don't falsely accuse a person you have no idea about.
     
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    I never submitted thoes scores my friend. Thanks to all of the advice I was given (you guys saved me) and no there is nothing I want to hide (I cannot at this point) everything besides those test scores are submitted. A person I was talking to was just curious and therefore I in turn am, I don't know why it is troubling you to answer my question thouroughly. I am kind of tired of these OPs thinking that they are psychologists (thats why I sound defensive) most of all I am tired of you guys thinking that I am some dude that would disrespect the corps of cadets by my posts. You guys don't even know me on a personal level.
     
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    I don't understand what you mean by (soldier of the quarter board=good, Honor Board=bad) I may sound silly to you right now but I don't know what you are talking about
     
  12. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    soldier of the quarter would be like "Employee of the Month", except it's for a 3 month period, or a quater of the year. It's a good thing.

    And honor board is the board that meets to discuss an individual's possible honor violations. That's a bad thing.

    I'm no West Point grad, but I'm guessing both involve speaking to a board or answering questions.

    Cadets and midshipmen will need to do background checks for security clearances. Generally everyone get a secret clearance, which goes back 5 years in your immediate past (and is good for 10 years). A top secret clearance goes back 10 (and is good for 5 years).
     
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    Can you tell me a bit more about this clearence? is it somthing as simple as to see if you have had a criminal past? and what kind of questions do you have to answer? and when are these clearences administered?
     
  14. -Bull-

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    When I did the packet for my security clearance, I had to fill out stacks of paperwork providing dates and times of which terrorists I associated with and built bombs for. Once I submitted the packet, I had to meet with a special agent from OPM who just sat down and went over everything I submitted to make sure it was correct. Not an interrogation by far (guy was very friendly), just more of a face to face meeting for confirmation.

    (This was my experience with the clearance process as an Army ROTC cadet, not associated with WP)
     
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    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Don't do what my classmate (and shipmate) thought about doing. When the attrative pregnant female investigator showed up to interview him for someone else's bakcground investigation.

    He came to my stateroom.

    "She's hot, should I hit on her?"

    "No. One, she's pregnant, so I'm pretty sure it's not going to work out. Two, she's here to do an investigation, and making the moves after knowing the first reason would hurt your credibility for the second reason."


    They just get down and dirty with your past. They'll talk to a list of people you gave them. Then they'll talk to others too. Top secret involves more scratching. Nothing like the movies.

    If you needed top secret-SCI, that would involved a polygraph.
     
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    who are these people you give them? kind of like references?
     
  17. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I'm sure there are people here who can answer this question more completely than I.

    I haven't done a TS package in 6 years.
     
  18. BigBear

    BigBear Class of 2015

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    people from your past. If I remember correctly, you need someone you went to school with, an employer/teacher/coach type person, a neighbor, and maybe one or two other people. It really is not a big deal assuming you haven't murdered someone or lied about where you went to school or grew up.\

    edit, you can read the whole form. look for SF86 online.
     
  19. kinnem

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    Well, the question was answered in the first two posts. The answer is "no". You have to admit, if you go back through your posts you seem (to this community anyway) as someone who is being secretive about something. I'm sure if you read them objectively, trying to be someone who doesn't know you, if that is possible, you will see what we're talking about. I'll try to keep a more open mind in the future regarding your questions. It would perhaps be more helpful if you also were a bit more expansive on why you were asking. Hope you get prep.
     
  20. -Bull-

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    You have to list all the places you've lived and list references of people that knew you at each location. These are the people the investigators talk to.
     

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